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Old Saturday 19th September 2020, 10:42   #1
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Gull ID - Poland

Hello

I just saw this Gull today at the local Harbour..

I'm a bit puzzled about it, since the rest of the gulls were Herring gulls 1 and 2cy, but none of them were white on the front and belly and the bill wasn't as straight under, as this.. Acc. to my birdbook and picture search on Google, the 1cy and 2cy Herring gulls aren't that whitish on the front and below..

Is this just a bit abnormal Herring gull or rather a Lesser Black backed?
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Old Saturday 19th September 2020, 14:29   #2
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Long wings mean 1cy LBBG or Yellow-legged Gull. I'm probably favouring the former but open wing and tail pics would help sort if for sure.
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Old Saturday 19th September 2020, 14:38   #3
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Thanks for your input..

I do not have pictures that shows more than this, except a single one showing the head in a different angle here..
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Old Saturday 19th September 2020, 15:26   #4
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I'm being cautious but suspect LBBG.
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Old Saturday 19th September 2020, 15:56   #5
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OK, but a Herring Gull can surely be excluded, right?
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Old Saturday 19th September 2020, 16:28   #6
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OK, but a Herring Gull can surely be excluded, right?
Yes.
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Old Saturday 19th September 2020, 16:29   #7
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Super.. The YLG is very rare around here.. So far only 3 registered this year in the region, so I'll report it as a LBBG 1cy

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Old Saturday 19th September 2020, 16:32   #8
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The head and bill don't look at all like LBBG to me, more like GBBG but it clearly isn't one of those.

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Hi Steve

OK, interesting.. Any other suggestions, which direction to look then?
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Not that I'm a big gull enthusiast but it does look like a 1st winter Herring Gull to me. Quite a resemblence with this bird:

http://www.gull-research.org/miscell...eloep2eng.html

Not too long-winged IMO. I imagine LBBG can't be too common in Poland as well? Which ssp. would it be anyway, has intermedius reached Poland yet? Because it sure isn't a fuscus.
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In view of the fact that 3 of us have suggested 3 different species, and the bill is quite heavy, on reflection I'd probably leave it unidentified without open wing and tail pictures.
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Old Sunday 20th September 2020, 05:48   #12
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Thanks to all for your inputs..

I know Gulls are a difficult area, especially the 1cy...

I'll leave this bird and try to insure more detailed pictures next time
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