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Old Friday 15th May 2015, 18:44   #1
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Spotted Flycatcher (Muscicapa striata)

Viganň M. & Corso A. 2015. Morphological differences between two subspecies of Spotted Flycatcher Muscicapa striata (Pallas, 1764) (Passeriformes Muscicapidae). Proceedings of the 2nd International Congress “Speciation and Taxonomy”, May 16th-18th 2014, Cefalů-Castelbuono (Italy). Biodiversity Journal 6: 271-284.
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There is also a paper about Lesser Kestrel by Corso et al in this proceedings, but its link is broken now:

A quantitative morphological geographical study from a widely distributed raptor: the Lesser Kestrel Falco naumanni Fleischer, 1818 (Falconiformes Falconidae)
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Old Friday 15th May 2015, 19:05   #2
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Interesting, thanks. I would be important to include balearica in futures studies, AFAIK balearica and tyrrhenica shares some similarities.
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Old Friday 15th May 2015, 20:47   #3
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van den Berg 2015 (Dutch Birding bird names) lists Balearic Spotted Flycatcher Muscicapa tyrrhenica/balearica as 'distinct subspecies sometimes considered specifically distinct'.
I make sense, but I wonder who consider them today as specifically distinct... :)
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van den Berg 2015 (Dutch Birding bird names) lists Balearic Spotted Flycatcher Muscicapa striata tyrrhenica/balearica as 'distinct subspecies sometimes considered specifically distinct'.
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Old Monday 18th May 2015, 08:19   #5
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balearica is under way ...we are studing also this very different taxon of course !! Wait a bit more

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Old Monday 18th May 2015, 08:20   #6
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and the PDF of Falco naumanni pekinensis is now on line!!!

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I'm now in the Balearic and I don't find the Spotted Flycatcher here very different than those breeding in my parent's garden in Belgium... :)
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Old Wednesday 20th May 2015, 18:14   #8
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I'm now in the Balearic and I don't find the Spotted Flycatcher here very different than those breeding in my parent's garden in Belgium... :)
Taylor 2006 (HBW 11)...
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Race balearica is smaller, paler and sandier than nominate, with less streaking on crown and breast;
van Duivendijk 2011 (Advanced Bird ID Handbook)...
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  • Prim-projection slightly shorter than in striata.
  • ad: Upperparts paler brown than in striata.
  • ad: Underparts almost unstreaked but with broad, faint spots.
  • Ind outside normal range not identifiable with certainty.
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balearica

See also this paper (in Catalan with extensive English summary):

Gargallo, G. 1993. Identificació de la subspčcie Balear de Menjamosques (Muscicapa striata balearica). Anuari Ornitolôgic de Les Balears 8: 21–30.
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I'm now in the Balearic and I don't find the Spotted Flycatcher here very different than those breeding in my parent's garden in Belgium... :)
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Taylor 2006 (HBW 11)...

van Duivendijk 2011 (Advanced Bird ID Handbook)...
Or maybe the ones you're seeing in the Balearics are, at least in part, still passage nominate birds destined for northern Europe?
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Yes, Nutcracker, today I've seen quite distinctive balearica !!! An call is distinctive too!!!

I realized when I was trying to picture a badius Woodchat Shrike, and a second one joined... and was a senator. I thought... why not striata Spotied Fly here finally????

Great !! (and great photos of Balearic Warbler today, soooo happy)
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This picture shows a Balearic bird taken today compared to a French bird.
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They ARE DIFFERENT, and believe me, they ARE identifiable in the field !

And YES the call is clinching too

Wait wait till the next work by Michele Viganň will come, with also our ID paper
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Pons et al

Pons, Thibault, Aymí, Grussu, Muntaner, Olioso, Sunyer, Touihri & Fuchs (in press). The role of western Mediterranean islands in the evolutionary diversification of the Spotted Flycatcher (Muscicapa striata), a long-distance migratory passerine species. J Avian Biol. [abstract]
  • Muscicapa [striata] tyrrhenica (incl ssp balearica)
Taylor 2006 (HBW 11).

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Muscicapa tyrrhenica

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They ARE DIFFERENT, and believe me, they ARE identifiable in the field !

And YES the call is clinching too
Andrea knows what he is talking about:

Pons, J.-M., Thibault, J.-C., Aymí, R., Grussu, M., Muntaner, J., Olioso, G., Sunyer, J. R., Touihri, M. & Fuchs, J. (2015). The role of western Mediterranean islands in the evolutionary diversification of the Spotted Flycatcher (Muscicapa striata), a long-distance migratory passerine species. Journal of Avian Biology doi: 10.1111/jav.00859 (abstract)

Ooops Richard! Posted on the same time!
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Ooops Richard! Posted on the same time!
No problem, Mohamed. So, what's a good name: Insular/Island/Mediterranean/Schiebel's (Spotted) Flycatcher...?
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So, what's a good name: Insular/Island/Mediterranean/Schiebel's (Spotted) Flycatcher...?
Snappy! I like it!!
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They ARE DIFFERENT, and believe me, they ARE identifiable in the field !

And YES the call is clinching too

Wait wait till the next work by Michele Viganň will come, with also our ID paper
Andrea means this article:
http://www.biodiversityjournal.com/p...29_271-284.pdf
(link provided by Justin Jansen).
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Andrea means this article:
http://www.biodiversityjournal.com/p...29_271-284.pdf
(link provided by Justin Jansen).
= Mohamed's post #1 (15 May 2015).

So Andrea's post #13 (24 May 2015) was presumably indicating that more was in the pipeline...?

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Martin Garner, Birding Frontiers, 15 Nov 2015: Balearic Spotted Flycatcher – new species.

(Not sure that 'Balearic Spotted Flycatcher' is the best name for a species native to Corsica and Sardinia, as well as the Balearic Is.)

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Not sure that 'Balearic Spotted Flycatcher' is the best name for a species native to Corsica and Sardinia, as well as the Balearic Is.
OK, then, so what about 'WestMed' Spotted Flycatcher....or the like?
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Muscicapa [striata] tyrrhenica

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... So, what's a good name: Insular/Island/Mediterranean/Schiebel's (Spotted) Flycatcher...?
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... (Not sure that 'Balearic Spotted Flycatcher' is the best name for a species native to Corsica and Sardinia, as well as the Balearic Is.)
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OK, then, so what about 'WestMed' Spotted Flycatcher....or the like?
Still can't think of anything better than Mediterranean, or Island, Spotted Flycatcher for the only spotted flycatcher sp restricted to Med islands.

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Still can't think of anything better than Mediterranean, or Island, Spotted Flycatcher for the only spotted flycatcher sp restricted to Med islands.
I think Tyrrenhian Flycatcher is the favoured English name for this taxon.

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I think Tyrrenhian Flycatcher is the favoured English name for this taxon.
That's certainly appropriate for tyrrhenica ss, but the proposed polytypic species (tyrrhenica sl) occurs in the Balearic Islands as well around the Tyrrhenian Sea (Sardinia/Corsica).

But better than 'Balearic', as at least it reflects the nominate subspecies (and where the species was described from).

PS. Andrea Corso, Birding Frontiers, 15 Nov 2015...
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Martin the English name should be Tyrrhenian Spotted Flycatcher as tyrrhenica is the nominate and has nomenclature priority!! While balearica is presumably a subsp of it (but I am not pretty sure as it could also be a third species). Wait for what regard field ID our paper soon to come in Dutch Birding. We were studying these group since 15y and arrived in time to publish morphology paper but late for our genetic results…

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