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Old Tuesday 23rd October 2018, 09:16   #76
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I'll stick with the 900.......reed warbler from around -15 yards.
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 07:54   #77
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Very detailed pic Neil. What setting did you use please? I can never seem to get that sort of feather detail with either the 900 or the 1000.

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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 10:03   #78
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Hi bud,this particular photo was shot on f6.3 and iso 400.This gave a shutter speed of 1/100.
The most important thing i found with my particular camera was finding the best aperture by taking photos of something highly detailed at each aperture setting.I found that f6.3 gave by far the best quality so this is what i use most of the time...... always use a monopod too.
As a one time sceptic of this camera i'm finding that it is capable of some great quality shots in the right conditions.....it's just harder to get these type of shots than if i were using my slr.
I'll post some more taken with the camera so you can see the warbler wasn't a one off.
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 10:14   #79
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A couple more.
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 10:22   #80
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Water Rail.....quite pleased with the autofocus on the camera ad it seems to be able to hit on very small areas.
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 11:20   #81
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Quite happy here too.....this Nuthatch was under the canopy in dark conditions,F6.3,iso400 and 1/30second.
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 12:55   #82
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Thanks Neil, I shall have a little play...……..been testing on a chestnut, even from 4yds can't get the same detail as your shots, but will now try some aperture settings.

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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 13:01   #83
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Also Neil, are you doing any processing on the PC with these shots?
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 14:59   #84
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Hi Peter......all of these shots are jpegs straight from the camera.The only thing i ever do with my photos is to crop as most of the subjects are too far away to fill the frame.
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 15:07   #85
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Another pic showing the detail possible and the cameras ability to focus through foliage.......i'm most impressed with it.
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 16:49   #86
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very impressed Neil, went around to the sunny side of feeder for this one. Definitely better than my usual from the other side. Cropped a bit and resized for posting.


Interesting regarding the Aperture setting, OK for F6.3 up to 2000mm but if I go any further out it shuts down to F8. This one was 1/500 at F5.6

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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 17:17   #87
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I tend not to use the full optical zoom on the 900 as images are a little bit softer at full zoom.This also means i can stay at f6.3 which is the best in my particular camera.
Have you turned off the nr in the camera settings as this can make a big difference to image quality.
Nice Goldie,i wish i could get a shot of one.......i do try.
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Old Wednesday 24th October 2018, 17:43   #88
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Cheers Neil, that looks like a slight improvement for me, even if it is in mostly terms of time saving more than quality. I've turned the in-camera sharpening up 2 notches, and reduced the picture size. Hopefully I can go straight from camera to web from now on.
Quick Great tit pic attached. (p900)

Your Reed Warbler is a corker
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Old Friday 26th October 2018, 07:07   #89
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The equation is simple...up to let's say 50m/60m (depending the size of the bird and light available), the P900/P1000 delivers very nice record shots, but a DSLR with the right lens would outperform it...and by a long margin at closer distances.

However when your subject is further, the quality of what you can obtain with the DSLR starts decreasing at a much steeper rate that what you get with the P900/P1000. You also have the portability advantage.

That is why, for what I need, the P900/P1000 is a better option.
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Old Friday 26th October 2018, 08:21   #90
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The equation is simple...up to let's say 50m/60m (depending the size of the bird and light available), the P900/P1000 delivers very nice record shots, but a DSLR with the right lens would outperform it...and by a long margin at closer distances.
Well said. Shy songbirds have safety distances of 30m or so. In a few years you can collect format-filling shots with a bridge cam of almost any species. It may be possible to do the same with a DSLR plus a Sigma 150-600 C, but that's a weight of 2.5 kg, and most people would need at least a monopod as support.
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Old Friday 26th October 2018, 17:29   #91
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Peter, what is your shutter speed? you might need to get lower, there might be some movement giving quality problems with your current setup

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Old Friday 26th October 2018, 19:07   #92
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Peter, what is your shutter speed? you might need to get lower, there might be some movement giving quality problems with your current setup

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Old Friday 2nd November 2018, 09:35   #93
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An informative new review was published on the uk.PCMag.com site, including a 3 minutes 4K video with some wader watching at 3000mm. Gives an impression whether it could replace a scope for stationary birds. The review also looks at various focal lengths, it seems photos are decent up to 1.600mm.

It's not a camera for BIF. Says the review:
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It rattles off a burst of 7 shots in a second, but stops and becomes completely unresponsive as it writes those images to a memory card. Regardless of whether you are shooting in Raw, Raw+JPG, or JPG format, you have to wait about 10 seconds for the burst to commit to memory.
I am in no hurry to get it, but it's good to have options. Clearly it would beat my manual-focusing wader watching.
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That Water Rail picture is superb.
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how AF performs with birds in flight ? How much time does it take from switching ON button to the moemnt when camera is ready to take pictures?
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Sample shots from today. 65 mtrs testing out the digital zoom. 3 shots 1 at 3000 optical, the next 4500 digital and the other 6000 digital hand held.

Same bird same place.

Quite pleased with the Goose as well

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how AF performs with birds in flight ? How much time does it take from switching ON button to the moemnt when camera is ready to take pictures?
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I found the Dot Sight to be more effective for static subjects, though, as the P1000's autofocus struggles a bit when zoomed all the way in. [...] the P1000 manages to go from off to on, focus, and capture an image in 1.8 seconds. No, it's not the instant power you get from an SLR, but it's a good mark for a bridge camera.
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Sample shots from today. 65 mtrs testing out the digital zoom. 3 shots 1 at 3000 optical, the next 4500 digital and the other 6000 digital hand held.

Same bird same place.

Quite pleased with the Goose as well

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Cheers Neil, goose was approx. 90yds away. 2200mm 1/500 F7.1 1 0f a series as he reared up and flapped his wings, so probably moving quite a bit.

I am happy that the 1000 seems to perform well at focal lengths where the 900 is at its limit. Whether the pics I am now getting are not up to the standard of some other cameras or not, fact is I am getting much more detail than with the 900.
I have a lot of pics of water rails from a few years ago, many of them from a foot or so distance. One year we had a group of 7 that were totally at home wandering around our feet while fishing, some even walked across my feet in their search for anything to eat!

Never managed the same sort of feather detail as your pic.

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A couple of recent images from my P1000. These were both taken at full zoom with a camera on a support.
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