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Old Saturday 15th June 2019, 07:25   #26
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Also got an Audiomoth device as a nocmig starter kit for the garden. Almost more excited about that one !
Just reread your post and the Audiomoth looks really interesting - maybe worth a thread detailing its use and results - is anyone else on BF using one I wonder?
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Old Saturday 15th June 2019, 09:32   #27
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Just reread your post and the Audiomoth looks really interesting - maybe worth a thread detailing its use and results - is anyone else on BF using one I wonder?
I ordered one via the ongoing group get, so will have to wait for a little while to get my hand on it and test it. I don't think it will be able to compete with the more serious set ups but size, cost and very low power consumption look very attractive to start off with. Brief review below

https://nocmig.com/audiomoth/
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Old Saturday 15th June 2019, 16:31   #28
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Thanks GMS, do you know if yours has the possibility to plug in an external mic?
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Old Sunday 16th June 2019, 08:10   #29
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I don’t think so but don’t know for sure.
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Decision made and recorder ordered. Went for the Zoom h4n in the end so hopefully will get my head round it (and Audacity) and end up with some half decent recordings in time.
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Great stuff - hope you have a lot of fun with it. If nothing else, recording birds has made me much better at listening to them. I use the Zoom, and audacity, so happy to answer any questions.
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Old Monday 2nd September 2019, 20:03   #32
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Hi, I've just bought the Tascam DR-05 and would like some advice from those who use one. I have read a few threads to to try and understand what settings I should be using.
I have my settings on
Wav 16 bit and 44.1k
Size 2g
Low cut - 120 hz
Auto tone -off
Tone secs 1 sec
Tone Vol - -18dB
Mode - off
Level - -48db

I have to admit I don't know what half of these make an and would appreciate some advice on what see tongs I should be using for nocmig and general recording when out in the field.
Also I see that I can buy an expensive power supply for plugging in to a socket at home when I'm nocmiging. It looks that same as a mobile phone charger plug. Can I use one of those?
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"I have to admit I don't know what half of these make an and would appreciate some advice on what see tongs I should be using for nocmig and general recording when out in the field"
Whoops crap typing. I meant to say
I don't know what half of these mean and would appreciate some advice on what settings I should be using
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Old Monday 2nd September 2019, 21:55   #34
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At the moment I don't have one of these to hand so am a bit limited on any testing of what really happens, but:

Auto tone - is sometimes referred to as Slate tone. One use is to simplify synchronising sound recorded on the DR05 to the video camera it is connected to. My guess is is that you are not doing that and the second use is for marking points on a file so you can index them easily. As you have set Mode off I am guessing that you arn't doing this either so you can ignore any of the last 5 settings you have listed altogether.

Size 2G means that the file size maxes out at 2 gigabytes which is the max on this recorder and is the default anyway - so this doesn't need to be touched either.

Recording at 16 bit 44.1kHz means that you are recording at the equivalent of a commercial CD which is more than good enough for most puposes.

Low cut means that you are not recording any sounds with frequencies below 120Hz - cuts out a lot of unwanted noise, but you may wish to compare the resoults with other settings.

You havn't mentioned your actual recording settings, so I am assuming you will be using manual, probably at max, with Limiter on.

Quite frankly if you point your microphones skywards with these settings you will have some idea of what, if anything you need to change, once you record something.

My memory is that the USB connector on the side of the DR05 is not the same as many modern phone charger connections, but is capable of taking current from a USB port on a computer, so any suitable 5v USB charging device sounds a possibility - clearly I cannot recommend it as you are probably invalidating your warranty by trying it, but you are probably on ther right lines.

The DR05 comes from the manufacturer set up to work with simple defaults that suit the majority of people. The best advice is to use it and then start tweaking. Your headphones will give you a very good idea if your volume is high enough etc. while you are recording. If you don't use your headphones you stand the risk of listining to several hours of hiss hoping to hear something.

If I can find a DR05 I might be a bit more use, but in the meantime - plug in your phones and see how you get on. A few rehearsals before anything important needs recording is usually pretty vital.
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iveljay is right - the DR05 needs a connecting cable with a mini B (or mini USB) to power it. I’ve recorded for many weeks using a basic tablet charger and one of these leads with no issue. I’ve used three different chargers with no problems (these are the chargers that came with various tablets - just with the different lead plugged in).

I haven’t changed the settings much on my DR05 since I first set it up - but I’ll have a look tomorrow and check them out.
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Thanks for your quick replies. I have checked it with the phone charger with it and it works, I just wanted some advice as when looking on the web it sounded like I needed a special expensive plug. I will just use the settings I have and the play with it a bit.
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Old Wednesday 4th September 2019, 14:51   #37
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However, when using phone chargers, not all of them are created equal. Good ones aren't expensive anyway.

Many crappy ones have poor electrical isolation (ie, they are outright dangerous) and/or are unable to supply a reliable and stable current.

A good bet (and cheap) are official Raspberry Pi power supplies. They can supply 2 A reliably and as far as I know the design has been checked for safety.
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