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Canon Image Stabilized (IS) Binoculars (1 Viewer)

My only complaint is that they haven't been upgraded fast enough. I'd like to see an improved debugged 10X42.

My only real complaint is the close focus isn't to good, I would like to upgrade my 12 X36s but there isn't anything to upgrade to, so I will stick with them for the time being.

Mick
 
My only real complaint is the close focus isn't to good, I would like to upgrade my 12 X36s but there isn't anything to upgrade to, so I will stick with them for the time being.

Mick

I have owned the 12x36 IS for two and a half years, and they are now my main birding binocular. The steady 12x views provides more detailed views, and allows identifications I wouldn't be able to make with my 7x42s.

The biggest and best "upgrade" I can imagine would be a better close focus distance. Having said that, the 10x42 Ls have a close focus, but changing focus is rather glacial, and I wouldn't want to have a close focus that required so much working of the focus knob.

Clear skies, Alan
 
I have owned the 12x36 IS for two and a half years, and they are now my main birding binocular. The steady 12x views provides more detailed views, and allows identifications I wouldn't be able to make with my 7x42s.

The biggest and best "upgrade" I can imagine would be a better close focus distance. Having said that, the 10x42 Ls have a close focus, but changing focus is rather glacial, and I wouldn't want to have a close focus that required so much working of the focus knob.

Clear skies, Alan

I've had mine about the same length of time and they are my main bin, just occasionally I use my old Nikon sporters through the kitchen window and find myself fumbling for the stabilize button which isn't there, doh.
I wish Canon would bring out something like a 12 X 50 IS with better close focus that would be the ultimate for me.

Mick
 
Canon 12X36 IS II - objective lens covers, dust protection?

Hi All ,

Found this forum while looking for reviews on binoculars, and based on the opinions of some here, decided to get the Canon 12X36 Image Stabilized bins. Have used them for a few weeks now, amazing, saw a planet from my window (even with New York's light polluted sky) the first night - only knew it was a planet once I looked through the bins and saw it with 3 moons around it, always thought it was just another star! The IS works great for viewing details. Went camping last week and got to see some hawks in flight, tracking them with these were a breeze, can't wait to use them more once I go on my African Safari (Kenya and Tanzania) in 2 weeks!

I was wondering if anyone here (especially Canon 12X36 IS owners) would have recommendations on how to minimize dust (as it will be very dusty in Africa on a safari vehicle), and also if anyone knows if there are caps or covers available for the objective lens, as they don't come with them.

Thanks!!!
 
I can't imagine dust would be much of a problem they are quite well sealed, on a safari I think I would be more worried about a supply of batteries.

Mick
 
Thanks Mick, I was just wondering if there was some way to protect the objective lens other than putting it back in the carrying case.
 
Thanks Mick, I was just wondering if there was some way to protect the objective lens other than putting it back in the carrying case.
Thanks everyone for the advice, I re-visited my lusting for IS bins recently after two events happened simultaneously...firstly a top expert here recommended IS to me (I won´t mention his name because I´m Not Worthy...), and secondly I came across another pair (12x36) in a shop here that was on special offer, and they turned out to be genuine. The price was extremely good, and I compared them with my 10x42 ELs. As postcardcv said, the EL´s optics are better. But with the IS button depressed, I can simply see more, and better, with the IS. I´ve tested them in all kinds of conditions, tried reading letters on distant objects, watched flying birds, etc. etc., and the IS wins every time. Meaning that what´s crucial for me is not the brightness, or the sharpness, but the stability of the image. I´ve since checked with my Fieldscope, etc., and found that every kind of optic I use is constantly shuddering with every hearbeat, if even my eye-socket or index finger is even gently touching the eyepiece or focus-wheel. (I´m sure you folks knew this all along!!;) ). Thanks again, Best Wishes.
 
I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine, one thing I would say I have noticed with mine is the little LED battery indicator on top, ignore it, mine stops lighting up when there is ages left in the batteries I change mine when I notice the stabiliser not working very well.

Mick
 
I have been using the 15x50 for over three years now. The Canon IS unfortunately is not a binocular which can be summed up quickly. First of all, the IS mechanism is such that unless the binocular was more or less perfectly collimated, there will be significant unsharpness and chromatic aberration either with the stabilizer off, with it on, or both. Production tolerances do not seem to be tight enough in this respect, so you'll see some people calling them soft, others calling them sharp as anything, and whatever you want in between. They all tell the truth, I believe. Also, with the stabilization engaged, the image quality varies according to how still you hold them (less movement and shake - better resolution). In addition, at least the 15-18x models are very critical for correct interpupillary distance setting and diopter adjustment. They are also not as bright as Swaro, Zeiss or Leica premiums. Having said all this, no conventional birding binocular, irrespective of price, shows you nearly as much detail hand held or even tripod mounted, and the difference is not subtle. I own a pair of superb Nikon SE 10x42's, which has mostly gathered dust since I bought the Canons. Hand held, the Canons show one-and-a-half times smaller details than the Nikon does tripod mounted, and if the Nikon is hand held also, the difference is about 1.7 fold. They also show more in low light, all the way down to near darkness, than do traditional binoculars. This is both because higher magnification in fact helps more than a large exit pupil, and because the image stabilization helps so much when your eyes are struggling to subtle differences in shades of dark grey. The big Canons are heavy, but the 12x36 and smaller are pretty standard size for bins. With the exception of the new 8x25 IS, they work very well with NiMh recharceables, and with one fully charged extra pair in my pocket I have never run out of steam during a day of birding. If Canon were to design a model specifically for birders, 10 or 12x42-50, fully waterproof and with decent, twistable eyecups, they would create some real following. The key would be to have a binocular which would be nearly the equal of other top birding models when used without the IS, and for this they would need the lower magnification/wider exit pupil a 10x42 would give.
I just joined this group as I have started photo documenting the Least Terns for the SD Zoo biologist and the San Diego Airport Authority (where I work).
But my first love was and probably still is Astronomy (25 years, 10 big scopes probably up to $50 G's into it by now).
I have a pair of Canon 15x45 IS's. Canon pumped a lot of advertising of these in the Astronomy field. So I bought a pair. Great Binos. This model has now been surpassed by newer ones *but* the common design specs still hold.
They designed them with over sized glass and coatings to match the demands of astronomers. Thus the coatings used were highly anti-reflective.
I use matching pairs of wide and narrow band nebulae filters on them (they just press fit into the objective lens/casing) and scan the milky way. Those coatings cut the amount of light to the point where only line spectra corresponding to that given off by nebulae are allowed thru thus very contrasty images against a *black, black* sky. If the coatings were marginal...you wouldn't see the nebulae as well.
 
Great review!!

I'll elaborate a bit on the 15x50. Firstly, resolution. Tripod mounted and IS off, my pair through a 3x booster resolves 1.46 arc seconds through the right barrel and 1.3 arcsecs through the left. with stabilization engaged (still tripod mounted) the resolution drops slightly, to 1.64 arcsec. However, since with the IS on the resolution varies somewhat as the vari-angle prisms do their job, the image is at times softer, but this 1.64 was resolvable. Now, the best figures I have measured for traditional binoculars have been 1.84 arcsec for 10x42 Zeiss and Nikon models. If you multiply these figures by the magnification, you get 18-25 arcseconds as what your visual acuity would have to be before the binocular would be the limiting factor. In real life, human eyes can resolve at best some 30 arcseconds, with 60 considered normal 20/20 vision. To make matters more complicated, however, I have found that in order to appear totally satisfyingly sharp, a binocular has to have resolution about twice as good as what my eye can use. The best traditional binoculars do this, but the Canon not quite. Compared to top-class traditional binoculars, it does look slightly less sharp. It is also not as bright, although it is not too dim by any means. The 15x50's light transmission was recently lab measured by Kameralehti in Finland as 78%, same as Leica Trinovid BN 8x42. The best figure, 89%, was Zeiss 7x42 classic, with Swaro EL being just over 81%, and Victory II 8x40 88%. However, with the combination of high magnification and IS, they show more detail under any light conditions, up to near-darkness, than any of the 8-10x42-50 binoculars I have compared them to, and that is a good many. Kameralehti got dismal resolution figures for their Canon, so I suspect they must have had a true lemon there. Contrast is good but not superb, roughly comparable to pre-Ultravid Leicas. There is a rather prominent yellow cast to the image, which I suspect is deliberate since it seems to be largely introduced by the flat filters/dust seal glasses in front of the moving objective lens assemblies. This has a deep blue-purple coating, and I think it is there to increase contrast in mist, rain and snow as well as over very large distances, as it cuts scattered ultraviolet-blue wawelengths. Anyway, in gray conditions as well as over snowscapes, the Canon has excellent contrast. The field is exceptionally flat, with measured resolution dropping only about half to the very edge. Stars remain points virtually over the entire field. So, as a 15x50 binocular without stabilization, I would rate the Canon as very successful overall, and it is perfectly usable should you run out of power.

As an answer to the question of whether birds are enjoyable to view through the Canon, yes. I enjoy viewing a bird and studying it's detail through them immensely. At close quarters such as watching warblers in nearby trees, it is like having a low-power scope with stereo vision and easy, quick aiming. One example of their difference to normal binoculars. I was recently testing a top-class 8x binocular at my summer place. Looking over the lake at the yard of a house some 2 kilometers away with the 8x hand held, I noticed that there was some structure on the lawn, but could not begin to tell what it was except that it was colorfull and about the size of a small doghouse. Switching to the Canon and pressing the stabilizer, I immediately saw that it was an old wooden wheelbarrow which had flowers planted in it. Similar things happen all the time with the Canon.

Why doesn't everyone own them, then? Firstly, because the IS does tricks on you. The more the vari-angle prisms are compensating, the more they must bend the light, the more they introduce what is called "wedge distortion," whereby image softens and chromatic aberration (which is very low in the unstabilized mode) increases. Since the status of the prisms varies constantly, so does the absolute image quality. Since the image does not shake, this change of quality is much more easily perceived than it would be if the binocular would shake like normal binoculars do. If you don't let this bother you and just keep looking, the image usually centers and sharpens in a few seconds, but if you are following fast-flying birds at closer ranges, it is often better to have IS off. When viewing stars, these prism artifacts are pretty visible with the stars changing shape and size until you manage to hold the binocular still and the image settles. With normal binoculars hand held, though, you tend to see a wild dance of points of light instead! Also, as I stated in my earlier post, there seems to be more unit-to-unit quality variations than would be acceptable. "Seasickness" is something that you might experience initially, but as soon as my brain got used to the image behavior, it went away never to come back.

Another problem is that the eyepiece design seems to be super-critical for exactly right placement of the eye to the exit pupil. This means that interpupillary adjustment has to be just right. If your eyes are even slightly off, image is not as sharp. I have indexed my bins for my interpupillary setting, but even so, every time I let someone else mess with the binocular, it takes me considerable time and effort to find just the right setting again. Once I have it nailed, the view is easy and relaxed, and a full day of use tires my eyes and brain less than with normal binoculars. If you don't know what to expect or what to do, or simply don't have the patience, you will see a splendid image only by chance. The eyecups are also awful. They are sloppy and huge, and better left downturned at all times.

There is a tripod mounting thread in the bottom at the center of gravity point, and I often use a Finnstick attached to it so I can hold my hands at waist level.

Thus far, they have survived everything but a one-foot drop, objectives first, to a stone floor. That required a trip to the binocular doctor, who re-located the right barrel's objective lens cell which had slipped on its focus shaft so that I needed all the diopter adjustment range there was although normally I use -0.5. They have been with me in rain and on a sailing trip. After the sailing trip, the first day out with freezing temperatures they fogged up inside. My bin doctor opened them up and filled them with nitrogen, and they've been fine since. Image stabilization seems to work in any temperature - the coldest I have used them has been around -20 C. Focus also remains beautifully smooth (but slow) in any temperature.

They absolutely need a wide neoprene strap (mine comes from Fujinon FMTRCSX) and a proper eyepiece rainguard (same source, only one I've seen that fits).

In summary, while far from perfect, the Canon is in many ways a superior product and, if you give it time and get a goot unit, highly addictive.

Kimmo
 
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