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Old Friday 18th October 2019, 15:14   #1
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Absolutely fascinating article !
"Dr. Zach Bush went from developing chemotherapy to fighting pesticide-makers"
"every year, more [is put] into the global environment ... [it] has really undermined, not just human biology, but biology in our water systems, soil systems, oceans, and now [is] destroying the ecosystem at large."
https://www.salon.com/2019/10/14/why...NX42jgiapw4Ki0





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Howard Lyman has been lecturing on this for decades. I heard him up close in Tarzana Cal. circa 1994.

http://www.humanedecisions.com/howar...-turned-vegan/
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Howard Lyman has been lecturing on this for decades. I heard him up close in Tarzana Cal. circa 1994.

http://www.humanedecisions.com/howar...-turned-vegan/
Interesting, and lots of commonality in that.
However this is not a carnivore vs vegan issue -
It's about organic closed loop natural fertility with all the essential microbiome factors vs sterile, damaging, health compromising chemical systems.
Many vegans don't seem to realise that plants have parents too. Plants are living entities, and have unique spirits - just have a look at my avatar photo (in my gallery https://www.birdforum.net/gallery/sh...9/ppuser/92780) !




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Interesting, and lots of commonality in that.
However this is not a carnivore vs vegan issue -
It's about organic closed loop natural fertility with all the essential microbiome factors vs sterile, damaging, health compromising chemical systems.
Many vegans don't seem to realise that plants have parents too. Plants are living entities, and have unique spirits - just have a look at my avatar photo (in my gallery https://www.birdforum.net/gallery/sh...9/ppuser/92780) !
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Lyman has been outspoken about vegan vs non-vegan, however, his main concern by far is chemical farming.
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Lyman has been outspoken about vegan vs non-vegan, however, his main concern by far is chemical farming.
Yes, the chemicals and artificial fertilizers harm/kill both the soil and fauna (a category to which we belong!).

Animal manure is an essential part of the ecosystem equation - especially since so many of the indigenous 'megafauna' herbivores around the world have been decimated. This has a huge detrimental effect on the environment as the plants evolved in concert with them. Set stocking of domesticated animals also degrades the land, as natural predators would have kept them constantly moving, thus limiting excessive impact in any one area.

There have been trials of using composted sewerage sludge to aid soil fertility/carbon/microbiome, however increasingly that 'resource' is contaminated with pervasive microplastics in the loop, to say nothing of other contaminants - hormones, chemicals, heavy metals etc.

It seems we are being squeezed between a rock and a hard place with the present modus operandi ......






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....There have been trials of using composted sewerage sludge to aid soil fertility/carbon/microbiome, however increasingly that 'resource' is contaminated with pervasive microplastics in the loop, to say nothing of other contaminants - hormones, chemicals, heavy metals etc.
It seems we are being squeezed between a rock and a hard place with the present modus operandi ......
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Until recently, some undeveloped nations were able to use human fertilizer, and maybe some still do. But as you noted, the invasion of modern "foods" and drugs has poisoned that possibility in most places.
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