James Jobling
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I think I need a holiday (either that or old age is rushing on!) - tatjanae has been in the Key all the time!!
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Etymologies; the beginning of the end, or .... (1 Viewer)
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Paul Clapham
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My Russian dictionary provides "bride" and "fiancee" as meanings as well. However in English it's possible to describe somebody as one's "bride" if you are to be married very soon; at any rate the passage doesn't make it clear whether Kudashev was married to Tatiana or not.
Melanie
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Wesley Lanyon passed away in 2017. So the Key should be updated.
https://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-to-scientific-names-in-ornithology?name=lanyoni
http://americanornithologypubs.org/doi/abs/10.1642/AUK-17-161.1?code=coop-site&journalCode=tauk
https://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-to-scientific-names-in-ornithology?name=lanyoni
http://americanornithologypubs.org/doi/abs/10.1642/AUK-17-161.1?code=coop-site&journalCode=tauk
James Jobling
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In reviewing the Guide to Key Entries (see page 1 aaa of the Key) I observed that "to date only a dozen ODs have yet to be seen." I have 'bumped' this thread (amongst others of a similar vein) as some twelve months have elapsed since readers last helped to resolve the problem of unseen original diagnoses. So, with apologies for any repetition but in the hope that some of the missing journals/titles have now surfaced, I show below the remnants of genera and citations unseen;
Acrocephalus J. A. and F. Naumann 1811, Naturgeschichte der Land- und Wasser-Vögel des nördlichen Deutschlands und angränzender Länder. Nachtrag 3. p. 199.
Chloropogon Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, p. 39.
Chlorostola Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, p. 39.
Coeliola Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, p. 39.
Taphrolesbia Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, p. 39.
Eutrichomyias Meise 1939, Ornithologische Monatsberichte, 47, p. 134.
Heliochera de Filippi 1847, Museum Mediolanense. Animalia Vertebrata, classis 2, Aves, pp. 12. 31.
Microscops Buturlin 1910, Nasha Okhota, 14, pp. 10, 13.
Milvaquila Burmeister 1850, Verzeichnis der im zoologischen Museum der Universität Halle-Wittenberg aufgestellten Säugethiere, Vögel und Amphibien, p. 24.
Milvulus Hodgson 1836, The Bengal Sporting and General Magazine, VIII (28), p. 183.
Poikilocarbo von Boetticher 1935, Vögel ferner Länder. Vierteljahrs-Hefte für Pfleger und Züchter fremdländischer Vögel, 9, p. 83.
Ridgwayornis Bertoni 1926, Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay, 2 (1) (1925), p. 69.
As usual all valuable information will be gratefully received and acknowledged in the Key.
Acrocephalus J. A. and F. Naumann 1811, Naturgeschichte der Land- und Wasser-Vögel des nördlichen Deutschlands und angränzender Länder. Nachtrag 3. p. 199.
Chloropogon Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, p. 39.
Chlorostola Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, p. 39.
Coeliola Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, p. 39.
Taphrolesbia Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, p. 39.
Eutrichomyias Meise 1939, Ornithologische Monatsberichte, 47, p. 134.
Heliochera de Filippi 1847, Museum Mediolanense. Animalia Vertebrata, classis 2, Aves, pp. 12. 31.
Microscops Buturlin 1910, Nasha Okhota, 14, pp. 10, 13.
Milvaquila Burmeister 1850, Verzeichnis der im zoologischen Museum der Universität Halle-Wittenberg aufgestellten Säugethiere, Vögel und Amphibien, p. 24.
Milvulus Hodgson 1836, The Bengal Sporting and General Magazine, VIII (28), p. 183.
Poikilocarbo von Boetticher 1935, Vögel ferner Länder. Vierteljahrs-Hefte für Pfleger und Züchter fremdländischer Vögel, 9, p. 83.
Ridgwayornis Bertoni 1926, Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay, 2 (1) (1925), p. 69.
As usual all valuable information will be gratefully received and acknowledged in the Key.
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mb1848
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Heliochera de Filippi 1847, Museum Mediolanense. Animalia Vertebrata, classes 2, Aves, pp. 12. 31.
I did not find this but I found it from 1846.
http://www.zoonomen.net/cit/RI/Genera/H/h00187a.jpg .
https://bibdig.museogalileo.it/Teca...D094B9B25CD4087AD6F05F44377?an=332873&lang=it .
I did not find this but I found it from 1846.
http://www.zoonomen.net/cit/RI/Genera/H/h00187a.jpg .
https://bibdig.museogalileo.it/Teca...D094B9B25CD4087AD6F05F44377?an=332873&lang=it .
mb1848
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Eutrichomyias Meise 1939, Ornithologische Monatsberichte, 47, p. 134.
google book snippet
https://books.google.com/books?id=zFTzAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Eutrichomyias .
google book snippet
https://books.google.com/books?id=zFTzAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Eutrichomyias .
l_raty
laurent raty
Also: https://books.google.be/books?id=DK8fAQAAIAAJ&q=Eutrichomyias
I once "did" this one - I have a file on my HD that reads:
(Blue text colouring mine. Probably the most relevant sentence etymologically.)
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Following Mark's second link (well found! :t
, in post #65, regarding Heliochera ...
"Museum Mediolanense. Animalia Vertebrata, classes 2, Aves", is still unseen, but see the attached excerpt (from p.449) in Atti della ottava Riunione degli scienziati italiani tenuta in Genova dal XIV al XXIX Settembre MDCCCXLVI (1846). Note that the front page is/was dated: MDCCCXLVII (i.e. 1847).
If of any help?
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, in post #65, regarding Heliochera ..."Museum Mediolanense. Animalia Vertebrata, classes 2, Aves", is still unseen, but see the attached excerpt (from p.449) in Atti della ottava Riunione degli scienziati italiani tenuta in Genova dal XIV al XXIX Settembre MDCCCXLVI (1846). Note that the front page is/was dated: MDCCCXLVII (i.e. 1847).
If of any help?
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Attachments
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
As I think I´ve pointed out before, by 1836, the title seems to have been Bengal Sporting Magazine (no General
), as of here (though still not seen in full) ...And; still no trace of Bertoni's (1925/1926) piece in Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay. Why not drop the Sociedad itself (as of here) an e-mail?
Well, that's all I can find, James. Good luck finding the whole lot!
Björn
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l_raty
laurent raty
Heliochera
The Atti della ottava riunione were certainly published in 1847, with "1846" being the year of the meeting; the introducing text (p. viii; alt. link [here]) is dated 9 Mar 1847. I'm not clear on which base Museum mediolanense should be given precedence, however. (Richmond [here] seems to date this to 31 Dec 1847 ? If so, it would seem this cannot possibly be earlier than any other 1847 work.)
Out of curiosity: What was the source of the text quoted in the Key for Euchlornis, attributed to "de Filippi 1847" ? The diagnosis itself seems identical to that in the Atti, but the surrounding text differs and seems quite typical of a work describing a collection (new genus used for one species [present in the collection] in the main text, and diagnosed in a footnote, where other species [absent from the collection] are also included), which I assume a work with a title like "Museum mediolanense" must have been.
(Note that -- unless there was a typo in the quoted source -- "augustatæ" in this diagnosis should be "angustatæ". (And, FWIW, the full stop between "ponendas existimamus" and the list of included species is also a bit strange.))
There is a full Latin diagnosis for both new genera (Heliochera and Euchlornis) in the text that follows that excerpt (alt. link: [here]).Following Mark's second link (well found! :t
"Museum Mediolanense. Animalia Vertebrata, classes 2, Aves", is still unseen, but see the attached excerpt (from p.449) in Atti della ottava Riunione degli scienziati italiani tenuta in Genova dal XIV al XXIX Settembre MDCCCXLVI (1846). Note that the front page is/was dated: MDCCCXLVII (i.e. 1847).
If of any help?
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The Atti della ottava riunione were certainly published in 1847, with "1846" being the year of the meeting; the introducing text (p. viii; alt. link [here]) is dated 9 Mar 1847. I'm not clear on which base Museum mediolanense should be given precedence, however. (Richmond [here] seems to date this to 31 Dec 1847 ? If so, it would seem this cannot possibly be earlier than any other 1847 work.)
Out of curiosity: What was the source of the text quoted in the Key for Euchlornis, attributed to "de Filippi 1847" ? The diagnosis itself seems identical to that in the Atti, but the surrounding text differs and seems quite typical of a work describing a collection (new genus used for one species [present in the collection] in the main text, and diagnosed in a footnote, where other species [absent from the collection] are also included), which I assume a work with a title like "Museum mediolanense" must have been.
(Note that -- unless there was a typo in the quoted source -- "augustatæ" in this diagnosis should be "angustatæ". (And, FWIW, the full stop between "ponendas existimamus" and the list of included species is also a bit strange.))
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Taphrospilus
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This is:
VON BOETTICHER, H. 1935. Der Gaimardische Buntkormoran. Vögel ferner Länder. Vierteljahrs-Hefte für Pfleger und Züchter fremdländischer Vögel 1935: 81-83.
mb1848
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There is a diary published on the 5th day of the Congress 9/18/46 which discusses de fillipi's two new genera. Is this enough of an indication?
Page 45 of https://books.google.com/books?id=k8IrAQAAMAAJ&dq=Heliochera+de+Filippi&source=gbs_navlinks_s .
Page 45 of https://books.google.com/books?id=k8IrAQAAMAAJ&dq=Heliochera+de+Filippi&source=gbs_navlinks_s .
l_raty
laurent raty
Yes, the inclusion of nominal species cited by an available species-group name is enough to make a genus-group name available before 1931.
This issue is indeed dated (p. 41) 18 Sep 1846.
The main possible reservation could be that this might be deemed not "published" in the sense of the Code. (I.a., not intended to form a permanent scientific record.) But it doesn't seem worse than a standard newspaper -- and we do accept names from newspapers...
Nice find!
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James Jobling
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The Four Musqueteers ride to the rescue - as reliable and enthusiastic as ever. Many thanks to Mark, Laurent, Björn and Martin. I shall complete the Key entries for Heliochera, Eutrichomyias, Microscops and Poikilocarbo, and revisit Euchlornis (food for thought here).
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Glad to be of service, James!
Re: "Heliochera de Filippi 1847, Museum Mediolanense. Animalia Vertebrata, classis 2, Aves, pp. 12. 31."
Hopefully of any help, (to whomever) trying to find it.
If still in need ... ?
/B
Re: "Heliochera de Filippi 1847, Museum Mediolanense. Animalia Vertebrata, classis 2, Aves, pp. 12. 31."
The same rare Work was also mentioned/dealt with by Sclater (in Jardine, 1848-1852), here.
Hopefully of any help, (to whomever) trying to find it.
If still in need ... ?
/B
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
So what´s left (of post #64) ...
Acrocephalus J. A. and F. Naumann 1811, Naturgeschichte der Land- und Wasser-Vögel des nördlichen Deutschlands und angränzender Länder. Nachtrag 3. p. 199.
Chloropogon / Chlorostola / Coeliola / Taphrolesbia Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, (all four on) p. 39.
Milvaquila Burmeister 1850, Verzeichnis der im zoologischen Museum der Universität Halle-Wittenberg aufgestellten Säugethiere, Vögel und Amphibien, p. 24.
Milvulus Hodgson 1836, The Bengal Sporting (and General) Magazine, VIII (28), p. 183.
Ridgwayornis Bertoni 1926, Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay, 2 (1) (1925), p. 69.
Five papers, eight original diagnoses of genera, still unseen.
/B
Acrocephalus J. A. and F. Naumann 1811, Naturgeschichte der Land- und Wasser-Vögel des nördlichen Deutschlands und angränzender Länder. Nachtrag 3. p. 199.
Chloropogon / Chlorostola / Coeliola / Taphrolesbia Simon 1918, Notice sur les Travaux Scientifiques de M. Eugène Simon, (all four on) p. 39.
Milvaquila Burmeister 1850, Verzeichnis der im zoologischen Museum der Universität Halle-Wittenberg aufgestellten Säugethiere, Vögel und Amphibien, p. 24.
Milvulus Hodgson 1836, The Bengal Sporting (and General) Magazine, VIII (28), p. 183.
Ridgwayornis Bertoni 1926, Revista de la Sociedad Cientifica del Paraguay, 2 (1) (1925), p. 69.
Five papers, eight original diagnoses of genera, still unseen.
/B
James Jobling
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Good news. Martin has managed to obtain a copy of Simon's 1918 Notice, and the entries for Chloropogon, Chlorostola, Coeliola, and Taphrolesbia can now be completed. As we all suspected the entries are one-liners (see Key). Martin is to be congratulated for his perseverance and excellent work here.
mb1848
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Acrocephalus J. A. and F. Naumann 1811, Naturgeschichte der Land- und Wasser-Vögel des nördlichen Deutschlands und angränzender Länder. Nachtrag 3. p. 199.
Here is a review of this work which titles it a bit different . On page 217. On page 218 it lists all the species in the new genus Spitzkopf ie Acrocephalus.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Y9fjAAAAMAAJ&dq=Nachträge,+5.+Heft,+1811&source=gbs_navlinks_s .
Seebohm says it is in vol. iv not 3 but I think all of the Nachtrage 1-4 were published in vol. 4.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/97642#page/299/mode/1up .
Congratulations to Martin!
Here is a review of this work which titles it a bit different . On page 217. On page 218 it lists all the species in the new genus Spitzkopf ie Acrocephalus.
https://books.google.com/books?id=Y9fjAAAAMAAJ&dq=Nachträge,+5.+Heft,+1811&source=gbs_navlinks_s .
Seebohm says it is in vol. iv not 3 but I think all of the Nachtrage 1-4 were published in vol. 4.
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/97642#page/299/mode/1up .
Congratulations to Martin!
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James Jobling
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Thanks, Mark, for the review from Allgemeine Literatur-Zeitung for 1814; a useful addition to the Acrocephalus entry in the Key.
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