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Old Monday 12th March 2018, 17:02   #1
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India Pipit ID-7 ?

Size : Largish pipit / 2nd image shows the hind-claw, faintly, though.

Nazafgarh Wetlands, Gurgaon Rural, Haryana, India.

Date : 09.03.2018
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Old Wednesday 14th March 2018, 10:46   #2
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Pipit id.

Hi all,
this is interesting. I believe this to be a richard's pipit but it shows many aspects of paddyfield pipit ! Alok has mentioned the hind-claw but it is difficult to assess it's length relative to the hind-toe. The central pair are not fully grown so the tail does look proportionally short.
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Thank you, Bryon ... certainly looked bigger than most of the Paddyfields I keep seeing in the area ... with different body proportions as well ( a visual impression only ) ...
I'll upload some more images ... but the hind claw may not still be seen in any of them ...
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Old Monday 19th March 2018, 01:48   #4
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The hind claw is visible in the second image and looks a little short for Richard's. As well as the tail, there's also a loral stripe, and the bill is too short. In the first image, the bird has the wedge-headed profile of Paddyfield.
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Final word ... Paddyfield ...
Checked my folder ... no more images of this individual are there ...
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Hi all,
Andy, there are specific descriptions of Paddyfield with a short barely decurved hind-claw, now. These are proportionally not much longer than those of a house sparrow. Alok's bird has a very long hind-claw. Furthermore we do not know because we cannot see how many mm. of hind-claw is hidden in his photograph. These photos show the minimum and maximum length of RP's hind-claw.
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Hello all ...
As Bryon has mentioned, the hind-claw is really long ... I'm attaching a closeup of that seen in image 2.
It shows, the claw is, actually, going over and beyond the grass stem.
Hope it helps ... !
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