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Old Friday 27th April 2018, 20:49   #1626
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Will do!
I found this Chinese version of eBird today:
http://www.birdreport.cn/Index
The oldest records were from 2002 and it's not as fancy. But, there is more information of sightings in China for some area. It's in Chinese only, unfortunately.
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Old Sunday 20th May 2018, 14:57   #1627
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My first Dalian post is from Heishijiao (Black rock). I went there this afternoon after checking into my hotel. There were Black-tailed Gulls. I did manage to see all ages but the youngest ones were too far for decent photos. One ticked. I may not need to specifically look for them any more but spend some late afternoons in Heishijiao after other birding activities. That means, I may have some time for other birds and may check places like Jinshitan or Lvshun.
Here is today's list:
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Old Monday 21st May 2018, 01:49   #1628
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I am at Jinzhou dump. No Herring type gull so far. Black-tailed a lot and I got a white one. Will post photo later. Dalian bay this afternoon.
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Old Monday 21st May 2018, 11:43   #1629
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Jinzhou dump and beach, May-21-2018

The dump itself was fenced and not open to the public. The security guy kindly showed me a gravel road around the dump. You can see the dump and the beach from there. Actually, the road is just on the other side of the fence.
There were lots of Great-tailed Gulls and I found one with color aberration. At first glance, I thought I had a Glaucous or Iceland. It was not albino or leucistic as there was still trace of dark on primaries and tail. I haven't decided the age but feel it's not a 1st cycle bird (hatched last year).
While looking through the other flock of gulls, I noticed two white ducks. It was 200-300m away but the color pattern matched Common Shelduck. As it would be a lifer for me, I walked to the other side of the beach and got a better look. The distance was still about 100m, though.
Then, I found a large-ish shorebird on the river bank. It was a Gray-headed Lapwing. Surprise! Not far away, two Little-ringed Plovers were vocal.
I tried very hard but didn't spot a Herring-type Gull. It's just not a right time of year, I think. I'll try the area between Laohutan (Tiger beach) and Lingjiao bay tomorrow, if the thunder storm stops. I also wish to see Mandarin Duck there. It would be easier to get it in Summer Palace in Beijing but I doubt if I would have time for that trip.
Full list here and more photo of the White(black)-tailed Gull:
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S45887304
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Old Monday 21st May 2018, 14:58   #1630
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Dalian Bay was not birdy today. A Great Crested Grebe was a first for me in Dalian. A singing Oriental Greenfinch was chased away by a magpie.
What I found was Baidu map is as good as Google map. Using it, I found a bus running from near Jinzhou dump to Jinmalu subway (now light train is also called subway in Dalian) station. Another one from Binhai park at Dalian Bay to Kaifaqu station. The only issue is you have to read and write in Mandarin.
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Old Tuesday 22nd May 2018, 05:07   #1631
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Hi Lancy, very interesting Black-tailed Gull indeed. I've seen one other leucistic one there before.
I'm shocked at how empty Dalian Bay was for you.

Heading to bed now.
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Old Tuesday 22nd May 2018, 05:45   #1632
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Hi Lancy, very interesting Black-tailed Gull indeed. I've seen one other leucistic one there before.
I'm shocked at how empty Dalian Bay was for you.

Heading to bed now.
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Hi Tom,
It was very imteresting. I see thousands of gulls in Newfoundland every year but this is my first color aberration one. It did not add anything to my lists but I'd call it the bird of my day. I'd love to see the photo of your one. If they look similar and mine was an adult, which I have to spend some time to determine, they could be the same bird. Gulls tend to live long lives.
Rain hasn't stopped yet but I can't waste more time. On bus route 2 to Tiger beach. I remember some places along Binghai Rd there look similar to the HERG breeding habitat in Newfoundland.
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Old Tuesday 22nd May 2018, 14:37   #1633
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Tiger beach to Fu's village (Fu Jia Zhuang), May-22-2018

Rain didn't stop at noon and I decided to go out anyway. When I arrived at Tiger beach, weather started getting better and soon the rain stopped. There is a river running into the sea there and I was hoping that area would generate something. A Mandarin duck was kinda expected as this species had been reported there before. Ruddy Shelduck was not if my memory served. The one and only 2nd calendar year Black-tailed Gull was not too far but not as close as those older ones.
https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S45923329
I kept walking along Bin Hai Rd to the west. Some White-browed Laughingthrush were calling loudly. I stopped whenever I heard Japanese Tit. Back home, Black-capped Chickadee tends to attract something. I hoped Japanese tit would do the same. Not sure if that was the case, but a Meadow Bunting was spotted nor far from a Japanese tit. While I was watching it, a large bird popped out for 2 seconds and offered me a decent look before heading back to the woods. It was a Red-billed Blue-Magpie. Another one was seen down the road. I managed to get one ID shot. This species is tagged as sensitive by eBird so I'm not sure if the photo with my check list is visible. I attached one here.
It was a nice walk, bringing some good memories back.
Crested Myna is not countable and I listed it as Bird sp..
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Old Tuesday 22nd May 2018, 15:27   #1634
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Hi Lancy,

The Tiger Beach area is very underbirded (actually the whole city is).

The Red-billed Blue Magpie photo is very good for ID. There is/was a bird park along the Bin Hai Lu near Tiger Beach and some things have escaped. White-browed Laughingthrush, Chinese Huamei, Red-billed Leiothrix, to name a few... Azure-winged Magpie, rare elsewhere in Dalian, can sometimes be seen along that road as well. I know what you mean about the scenery there, gorgeous just like Nfld in some places. Red-billed Blue Magpie would be listed as sensitive because they draw photographers. In China, I'm sure the photographers all know about them already.

It's difficult to say what can be countable and not in an area. Crested Myna breed in the Dalian area and migrate in large numbers through Laotieshan in the fall. When can something start to be counted?

I'n surprised that a pair of Ruddy Shelduck are still there in late May.

If I were you, I would head to Jinshitan and find a local black cab or motorcycle to take you out to the wetlands a little north of town in the coastal road. Private message me and I can send you a phone number that can help there.
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Old Wednesday 23rd May 2018, 10:20   #1635
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Hi Lancy,

The Tiger Beach area is very underbirded (actually the whole city is).

The Red-billed Blue Magpie photo is very good for ID. There is/was a bird park along the Bin Hai Lu near Tiger Beach and some things have escaped. White-browed Laughingthrush, Chinese Huamei, Red-billed Leiothrix, to name a few... Azure-winged Magpie, rare elsewhere in Dalian, can sometimes be seen along that road as well. I know what you mean about the scenery there, gorgeous just like Nfld in some places. Red-billed Blue Magpie would be listed as sensitive because they draw photographers. In China, I'm sure the photographers all know about them already.

It's difficult to say what can be countable and not in an area. Crested Myna breed in the Dalian area and migrate in large numbers through Laotieshan in the fall. When can something start to be counted?

I'n surprised that a pair of Ruddy Shelduck are still there in late May.

If I were you, I would head to Jinshitan and find a local black cab or motorcycle to take you out to the wetlands a little north of town in the coastal road. Private message me and I can send you a phone number that can help there.
I was invited by a sales guy to the bird park (Bird singing forest). He said I'd get better photos there.
Avibase included Myna in their Liaoning checklist. I'd go with it. It's too complicated for me to figure the "to count or not to count" question.
I was searching Ruddy Shelduck in Hun He river in Shenyang, hoping there would be some leftover. Zero. I'm glad to tick it in Dalian.

I was "taken" to see the two seas boundary today. It was a good view. They have a small zoo and keep some birds there. The peacocks were loud.
I did some casual birding. Blue Rock Thrush is a new tick. A Little Egret was walking on the beach. I saw a raptor (one of my biggest challenges, if not the biggest). I included my description and two poor photos with my eBird list.
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Old Wednesday 23rd May 2018, 13:03   #1636
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The raptor has been identified as Oriental Honey-buzzard (not by myself...).
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Old Wednesday 23rd May 2018, 17:06   #1637
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Lancy, that place where the two seas meet is Laotieshan - one of the premier raptor watching points in east Asia in the fall. If you were there in early morning this time of year you would be shocked at how many passerines you would find in the bushes there. It's tailing off now but late April and early May are the best times there in the spring. In the fall, high counts of thousands of Oriental Honey Buzzard migrate south through that point.
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Old Friday 25th May 2018, 12:42   #1638
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Lancy, that place where the two seas meet is Laotieshan - one of the premier raptor watching points in east Asia in the fall. If you were there in early morning this time of year you would be shocked at how many passerines you would find in the bushes there. It's tailing off now but late April and early May are the best times there in the spring. In the fall, high counts of thousands of Oriental Honey Buzzard migrate south through that point.
We went in the middle of the day and it was warm and windy. Not much activity. The domesticated peacocks were active. I will choose a better time of year to visit Dalian next time.
Yesterday, I spent a couple of hours in Dalian zoo, watching pandas, before leaving. I did notice there were Azure-winged magpies and a good number of Creasted Myna. They were taking advantage of the food supply by the zoo.
Something unusual was a pair Ruddy Shelducks were sharing territory with black bears. I was not sure if a zoo would set up like that. Another pair was seen in the waterfowl pond. They had two ducklings and at least one of the parents was able to fly. It chased mallards away. I don't know if they were zoo animals gone wild or wild ones been tamed.
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I don't know if they were zoo animals gone wild or wild ones been tamed.
Ah, the domestic or wild question to struggle with! When is it a Rock Dove and when just a domestic Pigeon? Here, are those wild or domesticated Mallard? The crested Myna are one that I go back and forth on. They are not common here but I do see two to four together often enough to think that they have managed to survive the relatively milder winters here and set up a small local population. But then again, maybe just a lot of them get released. Or maybe they are just expanding their range like the Chinese Bulbul and Hoopoe.
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Ah, the domestic or wild question to struggle with! When is it a Rock Dove and when just a domestic Pigeon? Here, are those wild or domesticated Mallard? The crested Myna are one that I go back and forth on. They are not common here but I do see two to four together often enough to think that they have managed to survive the relatively milder winters here and set up a small local population. But then again, maybe just a lot of them get released. Or maybe they are just expanding their range like the Chinese Bulbul and Hoopoe.
The problem exists with most if not every zoo, I think. I saw lots of zoo birds without bands in Beijing zoo. Some of them are local species, some are exotic. Some individuals are able to fly. This is not only causing trouble for birders, also has potential impact on local ecosystem if they escaped.
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The problem exists with most if not every zoo, I think. I saw lots of zoo birds without bands in Beijing zoo. Some of them are local species, some are exotic. Some individuals are able to fly. This is not only causing trouble for birders, also has potential impact on local ecosystem if they escaped.
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Considered a winter vagrant but I have recorded with photo as late as March in Panjin area. Could be an individual that was injured and unable to leave the area or just decided that it liked it there and stayed. Count or don't count? Each person has to make their own decision, but my general rule is to take a pass on any zoo or display area. The Flamingo at Hong Kong were tempting, but I stuck to my rule and passed. Maybe I'll get them in Florida next summer.
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Considered a winter vagrant but I have recorded with photo as late as March in Panjin area. Could be an individual that was injured and unable to leave the area or just decided that it liked it there and stayed. Count or don't count? Each person has to make their own decision, but my general rule is to take a pass on any zoo or display area. The Flamingo at Hong Kong were tempting, but I stuck to my rule and passed. Maybe I'll get them in Florida next summer.
I'm not going to count it. It's just an example of the chaos. Beijing zoo does keep diving ducks.
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