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mpedris said:Was the Zeiss weather-proof? How long did you stay in Indonesia?
two years in Indo
they Zeiss aren't nitrogen-filled but are brilliantly engineered
mpedris said:Was the Zeiss weather-proof? How long did you stay in Indonesia?
But the HGs are guaranteed for donkey's years as watertight, Tim.Tim Allwood said:Don't know how HGs will hold up long term in such a humid place.....should be fine.......
I kept my Zeiss dialyts 7 x 42s in a relatively cool cupboard in Jakarta, Indonesia, sometimes in a bag with Silica Gel if it was particularly humid and suffered no problems.
You should be okay with the Nikons I hope
mpedris said:Thanks a lot, people, for the valuable feedback.
I understand what most of you say about weather-proofing and the Sri Lankan climate. I, too, am a bit concerned about this. But my point is, at this price point, I'd rather settle for the best optics and be a little extra careful about storage conditions, rather than to settle for a little less optical quality but complete weather-proofness.
What do ya'll say?
dean tran said:Owners of Nikon SE told me that SE seal was good. It can take light rain, but definitively not submersion in water. Nikon must take into consideration while designed the SE that their binoculars are used in very wide climate around the world. I wouldn't worry about very humid weather. I own the 10x42 SE, it is fantastic, I wouldn't buy a bino just for waterproof only
mpedris said:Thanks for all the links and advice. I've already checked out BVD. Very good reviews.
I wonder if there is anybody here who has used the SE under humid conditions. Such a person would be the best source of information regarding this problem with weather.
maitreya said:From 2001-2003, I birded with my 8x32 SE in the yeasty environment of Eugene, Oregon. They never fogged up in Eugene or at any other location since I bought them in 1998, regardless of hours of birding in the rain and high humidity, no fungus problems either. For me the issue of waterproofing is less important than the image quality (top priority for me) and the handling (second priority for me). It's really a matter of philosophy, if you are buying binoculars as a tool through which you can connect with the world of birds, you cannot do better than the SE's. Provided of course, that the handling works for you. When I decided to add a 10 x 42 to my stable of optics tools, I again opted for the non-waterproof Nikon SE. Also, the scope I bird with is a non-waterproof Televue Pronto with non-waterproof Televue Radian eyepiece.
Once you receive your 8x32 SE, please tell us how you like them and how they compare, in your opinion, with the 10x42 SE.dean tran said:If the 8x32 SE is as good as the original 10x42 SE, then view thru 8x32 SE would be outstanding.
mike60 said:Manendra,
I dont think a comparison is very meaningful in this instance.
I have looked extensively through both the 8x and 10x SE and they are both superb bins, at any price, in their respective magnification categories. I opted for the 8x because I prefer 8x in most situations. Perhaps I might one day buy the 10x, but thats because I may want an excellent 10x bin for a specific use. In fact, I was originally attracted to the SE range by chance when I looked through the 10x one day. I had never heard of them or read any reviews.
I think a person needs to decide on the magnification they prefer first, and then select the SE if they believe its the best option in that magnification. Maybe a comparison of 2 SE bins of different magnification would end up being more of a comparison of 8x vs 10x because they are both optically excellent, in my view.
mpedris said:Once you receive your 8x32 SE, please tell us how you like them and how they compare, in your opinion, with the 10x42 SE.
Thanks.
dean tran said:8x32 SE competition: You might want to look to buy Fujinon 8x or 10x porros bino, they look ugly but they are exellent binos, cost less and has similar optical performance. What they dont' have is brand name (Nikon, Leica, etc...)
Hmmm... Of course, the chic appeal. Now why didn't I think of that? Looking at birds while attracting them!dean tran said:Conclusion: The only downsize is "the best--zeiss, swarovski and leica" have better resale value and chic appeal.
mpedris said:Folks,
I finally got my 8x32SE pair about a week ago. While looking at a Munia on an electric wire (against a bright sky), I saw a slight yellow cast falling on the bird. I recognized it as Chromatic Aberration (CA) for I could make it out also on the edges of some trees in the distance against a white (cloudy) sky.
Do you see CA on the SE often?
mpedris said:Folks,
I finally got my 8x32SE pair about a week ago. While looking at a Munia on an electric wire (against a bright sky), I saw a slight yellow cast falling on the bird. I recognized it as Chromatic Aberration (CA) for I could make it out also on the edges of some trees in the distance against a white (cloudy) sky.
Do you see CA on the SE often?
Thanks Leif & Steve for the responses.Leif said:BTW If you think you see CA through the Nikon 8x32 SE, then you should try the Nikon 8x32 HG, or Leica 8x32 BN! I can't use either binocular as the CA is so bad. However, most people do not seem to notice its, and those two binoculars are extremely popular as evidenced by the comments on BF.
mpedris said:Hello all.
I'm very new to this field of binoculars as well as to birding. Therefore, I need all the help I can get in choosing a good pair of binocs.
First of all I must say that IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO TEST BEFORE BUYING because of where I live.
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So, we have limited our choice to the following:
1) Nikon Venturer LX 8x32 NOTE: NOT 8x42
2) Nikon Superior E 8x32
When I set out to purchase a pair of 8X32 binoculars, I decided that I would accept nothing but the best that money could buy. I didn't care about the cost, I had the cash to buy anything up to $3,000 - I just wanted the absolute finest 8X32 optics available.
I spent well over a week, almost every day, for several hours a day, driving around from retailer to retailer looking through 8X32 binoculars. I would sometimes spend a half hour straight looking through a single pair of binoculars, thinking about EVERYTHING I was seeing, and taking detailed notes for later comparisons. I turned this into an obsessive, all consuming, serious part time job - I was NOT about to settle for anything but the finest I could obtain. I was interested in these factors (notice that Price is definitely NOT among them!):
Ruggedness/waterproofness (Very important to me, this ruled out the Nikon SE)
Overall image resolution and quality
Low light performance
Glare performance (looking at targets near the sun's position)
Color saturation and purity
Contrast, especially when looking at neutral scenes
Chromatic aberations (which REALLY bother me!)
Geometric aberations, especially at the edges
Edge effects, including focus and center-edge brightness differential
Ease of handling and quality of the focus control
Diopter adjustment position and locking arrangement
Weight (ranked low on my importance scale, but was still a factor)
Overall "brightness" of image
Aesthetic appeal (This was VERY low on my list, but was a consideration)
After this week of very detailed (and, I think, very OBJECTIVE) testing, I made my decision.
I chose the Nikon 8X32 HG (U.S. Name: Venturer LX 8X32) binoculars. I have not regretted my decision of 1 millisecond since then - these are simply the best 8X32 roof prism binoculars currently available, in my not-so-humble opinion. The Swarovski optics you refer to were VERY high on my list, but several factors - including overall image quality, ruggedness, and the SUPERB focus control of the Nikons won me over and made me pass the Swaro glass by. Again, cost had NOTHING to do with it - I really was interested in owning ONLY the best - and if the Swaro 8X32 binoculars were that, I would have a pair right now.
One other thing - in my opinion, whether the warranty is transferrable or not really isn't of importance, I plan on keeping these binoculars for life and passing them on to my children - hopefully FAR more than 25 years in the future
Best wishes,
Bawko