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Old Friday 26th June 2020, 11:21   #1
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Crow-billed Drongo in Thailand

Dear members and bird watchers!

Attached picture is a bird I have ID as a Crow-billed Drongo. Spotted in Phetchaburi, Thailand.

Reason. first of all, the hair under and over the bill.

Brownish so it can be a juvenile Bronzed or Black Drongo as they have brown plumage. But the bill is not correct

The area for the Crow-billed Drongo show "IMMIGRANT PASSAGE" and south of this area it is winter/ noon breeding area, limit are about 100km south of the observation spot

Any help with the ID would be very appreciated.

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Bill also very wrong for Crow-billed.
Black for me
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Bill also very wrong for Crow-billed.
Black for me
Thank you!

I will put it as a "Juvenile" Black because the brown colour

The wear and tear and the angle make it had to ID on the tail. My reason was the hair on the bill

Thank you again and have a pleasant weekend!
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No worries Aladdin - you too :)
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Adult Black Drongo for me.

The brownness and the poor quality of the feathers (especially tail and head) are due to bleaching and wear - basically because these feathers have been in the sun for a long time. This suggests that the bird is an adult, with feathers that are probably now a year old and are ready to be replaced by moult. Juveniles at this time of year should have fresh, black feathers because they have just grown (although they will get worn during the winter). A juvenile would also usually have white-tipped feathers on the underparts.
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Adult Black Drongo for me.

The brownness and the poor quality of the feathers (especially tail and head) are due to bleaching and wear - basically because these feathers have been in the sun for a long time. This suggests that the bird is an adult, with feathers that are probably now a year old and are ready to be replaced by moult. Juveniles at this time of year should have fresh, black feathers because they have just grown (although they will get worn during the winter). A juvenile would also usually have white-tipped feathers on the underparts.
Thank you johnallcock!

OK, I put it as an adult. Makes me crazy all these books and the description. Juvenile Bronzed and Black say to have brown plumage. But as you say, the tail is very worn.

And like you and me, we look the same from a distance but we look different up close. I guess it is the same with the birds.

Same as they have different personality, one bird don't care about you while the next takes off scared.

Thanks again and I hope the rest of your weekend will be pleasant

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