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Old Wednesday 27th April 2016, 11:55   #1
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Just spoken to my usual supplier who tells me that Mongolia, Gombobaatar S, Leahy C and Boldbaatar S due 2017 and Argentina & the South-West Atlantic, Pearman due Aug 17 are now not going to happen.

A real pity, had eagerly anticipated both.

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Old Wednesday 27th April 2016, 12:21   #2
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If true, that's very disappointing, and quite surprising. Much of the artwork for the Mongolia guide could presumably have been taken from existing Helm field guides (Central Asia, East Asia, Indian Subcontinent); and the Argentina guide already seemed to be at an advanced stage of development (with impressive plates) back in 2009 at least.
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Old Wednesday 27th April 2016, 13:01   #3
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It goes without saying that I hope this info is wrong, anyone shed anymore light?

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Old Wednesday 27th April 2016, 13:04   #4
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Both statements are incorrect.

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Old Wednesday 27th April 2016, 13:32   #5
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Both statements are incorrect.

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I have heard it suggested that the only reason Helm have kept the Pearman title on the title list is just to dissuade other authors from attempting an alternative, whilst hoping that the author will find the time to complete it. If stopping rivals was an objective, it certainly seems to have worked!

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Any word on the pearman guides publication date?

(heading to argentina in november / december so if at all feasible I'd like to get my hands on the books. :-) )

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Mongolia

Gombobaatar, Bräunlich & Boldbaatar. Birds of Mongolia. PUP.
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All I can say is that my retailer is usually 'in the know' and I don't know why he'd tell me this if not true, wouldn't be in his interests?

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Old Sunday 8th May 2016, 15:57   #9
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You'd kinda hope post 4 above was authorititive though...?
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You'd kinda hope post 4 above was authorititive though...?
Agree but the constant, long, delays can be a sign that things aren't as they should be?

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Agree but the constant, long, delays can be a sign that things aren't as they should be?

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This seems to have been the norm ever since I started buying bird books decades back .....
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As someone outside the book business, it's hard to imagine delays of 2 years or more beyond original dates.
A few months could be understandable but years?

Some titles seem to get close only to be put back time and again.

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Ha, 2yrs??? That's nothing! The Melanesia guide took 10......
The artwork for last year's Robins & Chats was started in the very late 90s.....!!
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I would suggest that the potential for delays is multiplied by the number of authors in a collaborative publication.
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Ha, 2yrs??? That's nothing! The Melanesia guide took 10......
The artwork for last year's Robins & Chats was started in the very late 90s.....!!
Adam,
I'm not referring to the length of time a book takes to produce, simply an observation as to how the date can be so wrong, often by several years.

We all have an idea as to how difficult and time consuming it is to produce a book, especially something the size of Pearman's Argentina but
why say e.g 2013 and keep moving it by 2 years, wouldn't it be better just to say 'in prep' and leave it at that until it's imminent?

Re artwork, I guess that's going to be down to whether or not the artist is a full time illustrator or if they have other full time employment like I believe your good self?

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I'm not referring to the length of time a book takes to produce, simply an observation as to how the date can be so wrong, often by several years.

We all have an idea as to how difficult and time consuming it is to produce a book, especially something the size of Pearman's Argentina but
why say e.g 2013 and keep moving it by 2 years, wouldn't it be better just to say 'in prep' and leave it at that until it's imminent?

...........
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A lot of it has certainly to do with discouraging others to work on a similar book. Kind of trying to keep a territory occupied. I had observed the same going on long before the times of the internet. So it's nothing new. What is new is the possibility to discuss these things with a wide "audience" so easily.
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I would suggest that the potential for delays is multiplied by the number of authors in a collaborative publication.
The Pearman book on Argentina would rather be a point against this view. I don't think there are that many autors involved.
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