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Old Friday 27th March 2009, 01:05   #1
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Chile three weeks in November

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I have unsuccessfully been looking for a book on bird locations within Chile, because I expect to visit for three weeks next november (actually three weeks plus whatever time is needed for the conference I am attending).

Given that I have not found such a book, which locations would be recommended, and what is to be said about logistics, given that the meeting I am attending is in Santiago?

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Old Friday 27th March 2009, 13:46   #2
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Niels,

Try tracking down - 'The essential Guide to Birding in Chile' by Mark Pearman - it was published in 1995, so could be difficult to obtain.

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Try tracking down - 'The essential Guide to Birding in Chile' by Mark Pearman - it was published in 1995, so could be difficult to obtain.

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Seems to be hard to get, only link I can find on the web is to Amazon who then states "not available".

Thanks for the title though!

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you'll have a fun time. Chile has excellent roads and the in country air and bus links are very good.
Santiago has large parks and a river runs thru it, so it's decent birding even in town, Valparaiso and the coast is a 90 min drive over 4 lane highway away, Portillo ski resort and mountain birds two hours in the east. The south has the more temperate and near polar species, depending on how far you go. Three weeks is a good length of time to spend.
Also recommend the Atacama desert in the north, near the San Pedro salt flats, for flamingos etc.
Basic guide is Wildlife guide to Chile, not in the class of the "WTWB in ..." type guides, but a start. There is a decent Chile bird guide but i left it with my tour guide and don't have the particulars. The ABA site or Buteo Books should have what you need.
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Niels,
We a company specialized in birdwatching tours, and we also sell nature books, please check our online store, the problem is that the store is only in spanish at the moment, if you have any doubt please don´t hesite in contact me!!! this is my email
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Thank you both! I will be looking to purchase that book, and I probably will also get into using a guide one or more times during my stay in Chile; but definitely not full time. The dates are not set either, I have to get them to fit with my teaching schedule.

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Old Monday 17th August 2009, 15:42   #7
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My current thinking is to use some time around Santiago, some time down south and some time far north. I expect to be in Chile mid november to early december 2009.

For each of these regions, how much time should I use? what about weather, how likely is it that the weather will be bad enough on any given day that I wouldn't see anything? For each regions, what are "must see" sites, and how much time should I expect to use on each?

Sorry if this is asking too much. I am also reading some trip reports, but some of them are not very detailed with location (quote: "a march")

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My current thinking is to use some time around Santiago, some time down south and some time far north. I expect to be in Chile mid november to early december 2009.

For each of these regions, how much time should I use? what about weather, how likely is it that the weather will be bad enough on any given day that I wouldn't see anything? For each regions, what are "must see" sites, and how much time should I expect to use on each?

Sorry if this is asking too much. I am also reading some trip reports, but some of them are not very detailed with location (quote: "a march")

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Here's the trip report from my visit to Chile in 2007. We saw a good lot of birds, and the pelagic out of Valparaiso was excellent.

http://www.birding-in-peru.com/pdf-d...ember-2007.pdf


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thanks Alan,
I had not come across that report, looking forward to read it.

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Old Wednesday 26th August 2009, 13:49   #10
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Try tracking down - 'The essential Guide to Birding in Chile' by Mark Pearman - it was published in 1995, so could be difficult to obtain.

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Subbuteo Books (the "books" tab at the top of any birdforum page) was very helpful and got me this book -- at a good price too.

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Niels,

I understand the engimatic Rufous-tailed Hawk is currently staked out on Chiloe Island - I don't have any details but worth asking local contacts. This bird is probably widely strung on southern cone trips with genuine records (and photos!) few and far between.

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Thanks Alan!

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Niels and Alan

Rufous-tailed Hawk can be seen right in the park in the city of Temuco, the park is called Cerro Ñielol. There is a pair breeding in the back side of the park, but serious looking in a day or two would get a sighting. I have seen it from the Terraverde Hotel.

Other resources for chile - e-bird Chile
http://ebird.org/content/chile
You can search for species, map them, look at hotspots and what people have seen.

Chiricoca - the online birding journal for Chile
http://www.redobservadores.cl/index.html
Click on the Chiricoca (Chilia photo) and navigate to past issues. Pdfs in Spanish, avistamientos are the sightings. There are also some bird finding articles there.

All brought to you by the ROC - Red de Observadores de aves y Vida Silvestre de Chile.
Saludos, Alvaro.
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Some Chile Sightings with pictures: http://observado.org/gebied/view/326...&to=2009-08-27
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Thanks both

As I try to dig deeper into all of this, I have one more question: in the north, a couple of reports mention a Hummingbird Sanctuary, without any further info, and I can also not find anything on the web. Where is this?

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Thanks both

As I try to dig deeper into all of this, I have one more question: in the north, a couple of reports mention a Hummingbird Sanctuary, without any further info, and I can also not find anything on the web. Where is this?

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Niels
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It's in the Azapa Valley near Arica. It's a private house and grounds, and the lady has planted lots of shrubs and flowers attractive to hummingbirds. We saw several nests, and got Peruvian sheartail, Andean hillstar, Oasis hummingbird, and Chilean woodstar there. I'm not sure if you need to make a pre-arrangement, but Barry Walker at Manu Expeditions in Cuzco would know. An email would get him (unless he's off guiding somewhere).

It's well worth a visit.

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Thanks Alan, I have tried sending Manu expeditions an Email.

I had another question: what is the best hotel in Putre? Does any of them have feeders?

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Thanks Alan, I have tried sending Manu expeditions an Email.

I had another question: what is the best hotel in Putre? Does any of them have feeders?

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The only hotel I know in Putre is Las Vicunas. Its on the outskirts of town, next to the cemetery, which is an interesting visit too. I can't remember if they have feeders, but they do have plenty birds. We had a Straight-billed earthcreeper join us for breakfast, which was the usual ham and cheese sandwich.

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Thanks Alan

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I have one additional question, unrelated to the previous ones:

I had thought I could fit in both the Far south and the area starting from Puerto Montt, but now it looks like I may need to choose only one of these two. Which area should that be?

I might be able to fit in a drive down to the northernmost region with Chestnut-breasted Huet-huet, if that happens, would that change the answer to question one?

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I have read a bunch of reports and the Mark Pearman guide, and have a pretty good idea about what is going to happen:
Nov 16: low impact at La Cascada de las animas (we have traveled all night)
Nov 17: El Yeso with guide
Nov 18: La Campana with guide
Nov 19-22 conference. End day with car rental and drive south
Nov 23-25: Altos de Lircay, Rio Cipresos, etc. Have to be back in the Valparaiso area by night of the 25th
Nov 26: pelagic from Valparaiso, followed hopefully by a little birding in the afternoon along the coast
Nov 27: late night flight to Arica, car rental and drive to Putre where three nights for Lauca etc.
Nov 30 -Dec 1: drive down and bird around Arica
Dec 2: all day to get to Punta Arenas
Dec 3: around Punta Arenas with guide
Dec 4: drive to Torres Del Paine, spend two nights?
Dec 6-7 Tierra del Fuego and back to Punta Arenas
Dec 8: morning to mid day flight to Santiago. Car rental for mop up duty the next 30 hours.
Dec 9: late evening flight home

I have left the plan a little vague around Arica and am fine with that. I have more questions in the far south: how to balance Torres del Paine with Tierra del Fuego? And secondly, what is the best report for site information in this area?

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PS I really hate not getting to the area around Puerto Montt and Chiloe island, but I just could not fit it in this time.
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Having been there and come back, a few comments to above itinerary:

1 Going from a pelagic directly to Putre was a bad idea, especially as the pelagic this day was pretty rough. I became seasick even though I had taken a motion sickness pill. Going directly from that to Putre was to ask for altitude sickness, which I got.

2 I could easily have used 1-2 additional days around Torres del Paine and another one or two on Tierra del Fuego, so at least four more days in the far south.

Central Chile could have used another couple of days, far north probably also, but this was a wonderful taste of the Country. I would definitely recommend this as a travel target if you are not on too strict a budget, Chile is not the cheapest place to travel.

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Welcome back! Hope you will post a trip report with photos.
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Thank you. I have plans of posting a trip report, but probably as a regular document. In the meantime, I have started uploading images to the gallery, look at the more recent ones in njlarsen's photos

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The report is up now in this thread

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