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Focusing direction of your binoculars, everyone?

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Old Monday 6th September 2010, 20:31   #1
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Focusing direction of your binoculars, everyone?

After fiddling around for a while I have realized I want binoculars that focus clockwise from near to infinity.
Using several sets of binoculars I need to avoid the confusion inevitably occurring if the sets are not uniform in this regard.

Sure I know there already exists a couple of another threads on this subject, but newer binoculars have been released, so an update is needed, IMHO.
I count on everyone's benevolence here, so that the list can be as complete as can be.

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....ight=clockwise
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread....ight=clockwise


Here are mine, and known: (please correct me if there is any fault)

Clockwise
Nikon Mikron
Vortex Fury
Swift Newport 10x50 Mk II
Zen-Ray ED2, Hawke Frontier ED, Promaster Elite ELX
Leica
Meopta
Swarovski
Zeiss

Anti-clockwise
Minox BV, HG
Opticron Aurora ~ Discovery WP PC (according to Opticron)
Pentax PF65 ED-A (newer)
Zen-Ray Summit
Zeiss Victory first edition
Zeiss Design Selection

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Old Monday 6th September 2010, 21:27   #2
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clockwise:
-sw 8.5x42el
-leica duovid 10+15x50
-vixen 7x50cf
-miyauchi 5x32 binon
-swift audubon 8.5x44

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Old Tuesday 7th September 2010, 15:57   #3
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Many binos of Japanese manufacture are CCW.
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Old Wednesday 8th September 2010, 01:13   #4
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My Canon 10x30 IS's and Canon 18x50 IS's are both clockwise.
They're made in Japan.

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Old Wednesday 8th September 2010, 12:18   #5
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Clockwise
Nikon Action EX
Nikon EII, SE, LX, LXL
Meopta Meopro, based on the assumption that it is the same binocular as Vortex Fury, and the Meostars focus clockwise.

Anti-clockwise
RSPB WPG series
Nikon Monarch
Vortex Razor
Vortex Viper
Vortex Crossfire
Swift Audobon 8,5x44 HHS
B&L Discoverer
B&L Elite
Pentax SP
Steiner Peregrine XP
Bushnell Elite
Leupold GR Switch/Power
Celestron Regal LX
Bushnell EX
Swift Eaglet
Eagle Optics Raven
Leupold Yosemite
Kowa Genesis/Prominar, most likely even BD's

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Old Wednesday 8th September 2010, 16:38   #6
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The thing is, if you insist on one, you are limited on what you can try. I don't seem to mind going both ways, sometimes I have two pairs with me that do that. You get used to it. On the other hand, I always look in scopes cameras etc with my left, dominant eye.
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Old Wednesday 8th September 2010, 18:29   #7
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Old Wednesday 8th September 2010, 21:47   #8
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I'm not sure why but CW seems logical or natural to me.
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The thing is, if you insist on one, you are limited on what you can try. I don't seem to mind going both ways, sometimes I have two pairs with me that do that. You get used to it. On the other hand, I always look in scopes cameras etc with my left, dominant eye.
Well, I have had the Minox HG for about 8 months now and it is very nice, overall. But it is no way as speedy as my Vortex Fury. There are several reasons for this, but the one that stands out is that I always seem to confuse the focusing direction, thus losing the warblers before they get sharp.

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You get used to it.
I am me, not you.
I can handle it, but I won't get used to it without getting rid of all the other binoculars. Even then, I suspect that the "wrong-way" direction will delay the bird observation and cause tons of annoyance.
In photography, Nikon's clockwise-to-infinity lenses always have felt natural for me.

Furthermore, I have read that I am not alone in my clockwise-preference.
I really wonder why it seems that most, if not all newer non-European binoculars focus in a direction that so many people find bothersome.
I would really, really have liked the Opticron BGA SE if it had been properly designed in this respect. The same goes for the Razors.
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I'm not sure why but CW seems logical or natural to me.
I assume most of your binoculars in your signature are CW. What about the Vixen Atrek?
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Most of my collection Anti except Noctovist MK I and II
Really? The russian, Zeisses, Meoptas, Swifts and Nikon porros should be clockwise...?
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Old Thursday 9th September 2010, 13:16   #12
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The binos all focus how they focus, CW or CCW. There idden much we can do about it, except adapt or peddle them, n' cest pas?
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The binos all focus how they focus, CW or CCW. There idden much we can do about it, except adapt or peddle them, n' cest pas?
Ze pöint iz dat ich yearn för ä modörn clöckweis fökused binokulärfernglas.
Zat iz why ich zeek dat införmatiön!
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Really? The russian, Zeisses, Meoptas, Swifts and Nikon porros should be clockwise...?
Bugger I meant CW
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Anti-clockwise:
Hawke Frontier Open Hinge, probably also the Frontier PC
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I have sold all my CCW models and trying hard to not buy any that aren't CW. I agree it seems "natural" to me also. I just don't want to get used to it.........
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Swift Audubon 828 8,5X44: CCW
Opticron SR.GA 8X32: CCW

The irritating thing is that my scope (Kowa 823M) is CW, so I use the left hand to focus it (the binos with the right hand). It works.
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Old Saturday 11th September 2010, 16:35   #18
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Clockwise

Viking MD range
RSPB Rambler 8x25, 10x25

Counter Clockwise

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Anti-clockwise:
TS Adventure series.

(I had a look on this one because Holger Merlitz placed its predecessor above the Zeiss Dialyt.)
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Old Wednesday 19th January 2011, 00:06   #20
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Me? I think a good mixture of the two directions keeps ya on yer toes. Right now, I have 2 ccw binos & a scope, alone w/4 binos that are cw. I like the variety. If a push-pull bino were to be introduced (ala sailing ships telescopes from the 19th century), I'd probably get one.....ain't I a mess?
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My binoculars are about equally split. I have no preference. For whatever reason after about 15 seconds I am tuned in to whatever direction I am using on whichever binocular I have and I just go from there. I'd have to drag them all out and check because I don't keep that in the memory file.

That probably stems from my youth when I had a Swift Nighthawk 8x40 porro and a Swift Trylite roof 8x40. They went opposite ways and I used them both about equally.
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I agree with some of the others here, don't worry so much how it may focus, just get
on with focusing, and soon you will determine which way it should go.

Most of mine focus clockwise, but it would be a shame if one would forego a great
optic over something as silly as the direction.

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I agree with some of the others here, don't worry so much how it may focus, just get
on with focusing, and soon you will determine which way it should go.

Most of mine focus clockwise, but it would be a shame if one would forego a great
optic over something as silly as the direction.

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Ok... One doesn't have to build a temple over it, but I think it matters.

When you're in a hurry to frame & focus a certain bird, the second extra to turn the wheel in the wrong direction first... the bird is gone.

In these situations it has to be in the muscle memory.
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I agree with some of the others here, don't worry so much how it may focus, just get
on with focusing, and soon you will determine which way it should go.

Most of mine focus clockwise, but it would be a shame if one would forego a great
optic over something as silly as the direction.

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I sincerely wish it would be that easy for me to adapt, but unfortunately it isn't.
Though I'd normally agree that such a thing seems silly - really! - this is an eternal source of annoyance for me. And I have my mind set on using two principal sets of binoculars, the 6.5x and a 10x.
The little Minox that I use much less can pass, but it causes confusion every time I use it.
Once again, I wish I weren't stuck here, unable to adapt.
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RSPB HD bins are Anti-Clockwise. These are top bins by the way!
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