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Old Tuesday 2nd April 2013, 03:39   #1051
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Tord--what kind of shutter speeds are you using for birds in flight. My e-510 would not tolerate iso setting above 400 without heavy noise reduction applied.
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Tord--what kind of shutter speeds are you using for birds in flight. My e-510 would not tolerate iso setting above 400 without heavy noise reduction applied.
Hi,

With the E620 I try to shoot at ISO400, light conditions permitting. If needed I will push to ISO800, as a last resort 1/1600 and accept noise.

On On http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=194789&page=40:
  • Geese are captured evening time at 1/640 ... 1/800s. This is a subject relatively easy to anticipate and follow by panning so shutter speed is not an issue.
  • Kites are captured in afternoon/midday, 1/1250 ... 1/2000s. This subject is more difficult to track and I would not go below 1/1000.

So I guess your E510 should be able to deliver good results in good light conditions. (I have an E520 as well and can try if you like).

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Today I tested the EM5 on Kites, Buzzards and Eagles in flight but that was not a success due to the annoying delay from one shot to another making it really difficult to shoot a sequence while refocusing. For birds in flight I will probably stick to the regular DSLR instead (E620).
Hello Tord,

I think that the delay is easy to correct. IMO, it is due to the picture being shown in the viewfinder or the LCD after the shot. You can disable it completely in this menu:
Setup Menu (the one with the wrench) > Rec View = OFF

I like it at 0.5 sec to quickly view the pic after taking the shot but it is nice to be able to change that if needed. Wen OFF, I can take pictures as fast as I can push the shutter button.

Another cause for the delay would be a slow memory card.

There are so many options in this camera... The learning path is quite stiff. I'm just beginning to to control it reasonnably well.

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Jules,

Thanks for the hint. I wasn't thinking of this feature, being so used to shoot at will with the DSLR and not having the viewfinder display the latest taken picture (which is technically impossible with an optical viewfinder).

I will try what you suggest at next possible occasion.

The ideal mode would be to have the latest picture shown for a few seconds on the display (for a quick check) but not in the EVF. Is that possible?


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Old Tuesday 2nd April 2013, 14:34   #1055
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Jules,

Thanks for the hint. I wasn't thinking of this feature, being so used to shoot at will with the DSLR and not having the viewfinder display the latest taken picture (which is technically impossible with an optical viewfinder).

I will try what you suggest at next possible occasion.

The ideal mode would be to have the latest picture shown for a few seconds on the display (for a quick check) but not in the EVF. Is that possible?


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Of course, the Electronic Viewfinder does not behave like the optical one on DSLRs. Personnaly, I like it better. I like the full time Live View without the disadvantages of LV on the DSLR. I really like the fast LV and having it in the EVF, not just on the LCD where it is washed out by the sun. I also like having it react to changes made in the settings - WYSIWYG.

To have the last picture shown on the LCD, see here, this the 4th post in the thread. I haven't tried it so I cannot comment.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/threa...-post-41411509

I don't see a need for this feature. Normally, I set the camera so that it displays the picture for 0.5 sec. in the EVF after taking the shot - this is enough to have a quick check and still allows for reasonnably fast shooting. If I want to shoot fast, I set the camera not to display the picture and I can shoot as fast as I want - when you shoot fast, you don't have time to look at the picture anyway...

Contrary to the Canon DSLRs I have owned, I have found that the OM-D is much more complicated and sophisticated. One must spend a lot of time understanding how it works and setting it up according to his needs. Reading the manual is MANDATORY and even, this is not enough: I had to do a lot of digging and searching on the Net. The M43 forum on dPreview.com is my friend... I read it every day.

And even then, some features are so complicated that it takes a lot of time to learn how to use them: the best example being FOCUSING. I almost returned the camera because I didn't like the way it focuses... and I'm just starting to get used to it, after 6 months. Granted, I don't use the camera as much in the winter months, but it's still a long time...

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Old Tuesday 2nd April 2013, 19:50   #1056
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rferriera,

Your mystery ducks are Black-bellied Whistling-Ducks which are resident in Texas. Great pics by the way.

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great series from the wetlands, rferrieri :-)
Like the great look of the ausprey on the first one with the pray!
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Old Wednesday 3rd April 2013, 02:18   #1058
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Thanks for the feedback guys aand Mike thanks for identifying my ducks. Rich
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Cranes

Some Cranes were seen the past weekend, however far from the thousands we would normally have at this time of the year, simply because of the long Winter that has put everything upside down.

It was impossible to obtain any sharp pictures in sunlight, too much disturbances in the air. In between sunlight were periods with overcast sky and light snowfall though, which saved my day.

Also spotted a group of resting Whooper Swans checking me at distance with a high degree of suspicion.

And the usual Red Kite.

SW80 + EC14
OMD EMD @ 1600 ISO, rescued from underexposure.

These are probably the last pictures I will take with this camera, I will have to fallback to the E620 while claiming the guarantee.
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Old Tuesday 9th April 2013, 07:19   #1060
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We all hope you WIN, Tord....and get your OM-D back soon.
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Old Sunday 14th April 2013, 23:06   #1061
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Red-necked Grebe

Today was the first day with decent temperatures. Got some nice pictures, will process them later this week.

In the meantime sharing a picture of a Red-necked grebe from a local pond.

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Old Monday 15th April 2013, 02:30   #1062
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Today was the first day with decent temperatures. Got some nice pictures, will process them later this week.

In the meantime sharing a picture of a Red-necked grebe from a local pond.

SW80, E620 @ISO 400
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Old Monday 15th April 2013, 06:30   #1063
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That is nice, Tord. The 620 is no slouch of a camera. Said it many times. Whenever the new body comes out, my E-30 will go, but I will for sure keep my 620.
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Thanks,
The E620 is a nice camera, although the viewfinder has its limitations.
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Old Tuesday 16th April 2013, 02:33   #1065
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American Goldfinch

Took these pictures at the local park, after the weather change to warmer these birds start to show up.

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SW89 ED + 1.7 TN+ extension tubes
ISO400, 1/400

50% crop

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@Tord: that grebe is lokking very good with all those dropplets popping out, like in 3D :-)
@pinkster: Great work on that goldfinch!
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Nice shots.
Doesn't look anything like "our" Goldfinches.
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@Tord: that grebe is lokking very good with all those dropplets popping out, like in 3D :-)
@pinkster: Great work on that goldfinch!
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Doesn't look anything like "our" Goldfinches.

Thank you very much for your kind words.
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Tord, that grebe is really good, very sharp, well done.

Here are some from my A65 with the TL APO.
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Tord, that grebe is really good, very sharp, well done.

Here are some from my A65 with the TL APO.
awesome, Fernando!

Would like to see Remiz pendulinus, someday! Great capture.
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Tord, that grebe is really good, very sharp, well done.

Here are some from my A65 with the TL APO.
You guys are pushing the limits of digiscoping ! Great work.
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Nice photos everyone.

Fernando, what do you think of the A65? Now that the shutter has gone on my Canon 450D I had A65 on my list as a possible replacement.

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Nice photos everyone.

Fernando, what do you think of the A65? Now that the shutter has gone on my Canon 450D I had A65 on my list as a possible replacement.

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At this point I would say it’s the best digiscoping camera in the market (either this or the A77 depending on your needs), At least for me.

That said, I still have some mixed feelings about it, it’s really good in some respects, but could be quite better on others.


The upsides:
I bought it for one reason mainly, focus peaking. It’s a remarkable function, it’s the easiest way to focus on steady subjects I’ve ever used, period. Seeing what is in focus couldn’t be easier than this.

Than there’s that amazing EVF, it’s huge, it shows exactly what your picture is going to look like, it’s very sharp and clear, even in lower lights. Much better than the G5 EVF I had previously.
Still, I added a 1.35x magnifier to it, now it’s like focusing on my living room TV :P.
Being used to the 450 OVF you’re going to love the view from this, also you’ll see the true DOF you’re getting, I found that very helpful in focusing too.

The steady shot, you have to chip your scope to take advantage from it, but it works quite well, especially in video mode.

Speed, this camera is fast, really fast. 3.5fps with live view, that’s about average for an EVF camera. But you have the option of 10fps too, and it writes those shots to the card very fast for a camera at this level.
Of course at 10 fps it no longer gives us live view, but it’s slide show effect is very fast, again much faster than the G5 I had. Overall it just feels very snappy.

Resolution, I’ve never seen so many feathers on a bird shot until I bought this, the detail is incredible. On the other hand, missfocus and shakiness now becomes quite obvious.

Silence while working, this is a feature I start valuing a lot lately, and this camera doesn’t disappoint, is not completely silent like the G5 but is very discrete, and using the front curtain option even more so. I don’t think I ever had a bird flying away from the shutter with the A65, this was a real problem in some locations with the D90.


Now for the downsides:
ISOs are a bit strange on this camera, when I first view the files from the camera I found them very noisy indeed. But comparing side by side to my D90, showed me that the ISOs from the A65 are very different than the ISOs from the D90. Basically, shooting the same scene with both I had to increase the ISO on the D90 by almost 2/3 of a stop to get the same shutter speed of the A65 and the same histogram.
Now I find myself shooting a lot at ISO 100 and 200 a lot, while on the D90 I rarely dropped from 400.
I don’t know if it’s just my camera, but mine is definitely more sensitive for the same ISOs than the D90 was.

Trap focus, you don’t use it, but is something I loved on my D90. And the trap focus on the A65 just doesn’t work reliably. Still I can’t complain about it because most other newer cameras I tried don’t work as well as the D90, that goes for the D7000 and D300 too.

Focus peaking, is really good… but could be even better. And this is the point that’s going to make me change this camera sooner than I though.
Sony’s peaking uses a type of CDAF detection, it reads only vertical structures. With that it’s sensitivity is less than optimal. And in some cases it doesn’t even show enough peaking.
To work around it, I have to increase the effect to mid or high, the problem with this is the shown peaking is more than the image DOF, so precision is lost.
Also, detecting only vertical structures causes peaking effect to disappear when panning horizontally, witch is an obvious problem for BIFs.
I hope sony improves this at some point, for example a focus peaking like Fuji is using now seems to be best. From the videos I’ve seen on Fuji it’s peaking seems to detect vertical and horizontal features and detects far more detail than sony’s.

JMHO on the camera, I hope it helps on your decision
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Thanks all for feedback and nice words.

Picking up some more photos from the photo session last weekend. Here is a portrait of the other family member that showed up for a few seconds followed by a decent record shot from a brief and sudden display behavior.

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Tord, that grebe is really good, very sharp, well done.

Here are some from my A65 with the TL APO.
Thanks Fernando,

Your photos are outstanding, (as always)...

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