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Slightly insane IDs, Khao Yai, Thailand

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Old Saturday 6th December 2014, 11:51   #1
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Slightly insane IDs, Khao Yai, Thailand

For those bound an the big challenge, I have prepared a fine selection of extremely poorly captured birds - all from end of October, Khao Yai, Thailand. All have in common that I have totally no clue about them.
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Old Saturday 6th December 2014, 12:54   #2
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I think the second picture shows an Ashy Minivet.

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Old Saturday 6th December 2014, 13:28   #3
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#3 is a Phylloscopus*, not sure which one though.

* If I get in quick, before the Powers-That-Be split the genus up
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I think the second picture shows an Ashy Minivet.

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Indeed, Minivets seem quite compeling on this one (didn't realise the bird is so large). Can you exclude females of other species with certainty? I see the head pattern and lack of any color, but also there is lack of experience on my side with this genus.

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#3 is a Phylloscopus*, not sure which one though.

* If I get in quick, before the Powers-That-Be split the genus up
That's what I feared too, without the upperside it's quite helpless, isn't it?
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Old Saturday 6th December 2014, 14:21   #5
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They are not so easy to be absolutely sure but..

1 - I'd suggest its either a Claudia's, Eastern-crowned or an Arctic Warbler, The olive rear flank suggests the latter but the bill tip, which I'd expect to be dark tipped on the lower mandible is annoyingly hidden .
2 - Probably Swinhoe's Minivet, not sure Ashy is on the Khao Yai list?
3 - Maybe Yellow-browed Warbler.
4 - Could turn this into a number of things...
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ad 1 - there is no sharp photo, but at least one where the bill tip is somewhat visible

ad 2 - I checked at http://www.thaibirding.com/checklist...-checklist.htm and Ashy isn't there, not sure how reliable that is (but would point clearly to Swinhoe's)

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ad 1 - there is no sharp photo, but at least one where the bill tip is somewhat visible

ad 2 - I checked at http://www.thaibirding.com/checklist...-checklist.htm and Ashy isn't there, not sure how reliable that is (but would point clearly to Swinhoe's)

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Eastern-crowned Warbler, big spikey bill, unmarked plus leg colour and general jizz.

Ashy is probably under-recorded as a migrant but Swinhoe's would be the default of the similar looking pairing.
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Eastern-crowned Warbler, big spikey bill, unmarked plus leg colour and general jizz.
I'm not getting the lemon-yellow undertail coverts that were obvious on both the recent UK Eastern Crowned Warblers, no more than the barest hint here.
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I'm not getting the lemon-yellow undertail coverts that were obvious on both the recent UK Eastern Crowned Warblers, no more than the barest hint here.
It is not always obvious, sometimes there's barely a hint, on both Spring and Autumn birds.

http://orientalbirdimages.org/birdim...162&pagesize=1
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The big spikey all yellow lower mandible is fairly consistent -
http://orientalbirdimages.org/birdim...162&pagesize=1
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http://orientalbirdimages.org/birdim...162&pagesize=1

Lack of dark tip to the lower mandible would generally rule out Arctic. Claudia's Warbler, one of the Blyth's Leaf Warbler complex would be the main confusion species here but generally has a slightly daintier more compact appearance. The bill, similarly colour toned is normally not quite so robust http://orientalbirdimages.org/birdim...162&pagesize=1 and leg colour usually duller http://orientalbirdimages.org/birdim...162&pagesize=1

So on balance of probabilities...

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