Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
ZEISS Summer Savings - Experience unique moments of nature. Save up to £250 on selected ZEISS Binoculars - limited time only!

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

My Review Kowa bd xd 8X32

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old Friday 19th January 2018, 11:53   #1
Chris223
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: somewhere
Posts: 53
My Review Kowa bd xd 8X32

I am owning this bino since 1 month...and i am more than disapointed.
To be clear my background in bino world is almost non existent, but i almost prefer the optic of an cheap 90 euros porro that i have than the kowa.

Maybe i have a bad sample, but i am really surprised about the hightly enthusiastic review en allbinos!?

First my goal was to buy a cheap compact bino for trekking in the mountain, i bought an opticron oregon 4 and a bushnell trophy 8X32; there were absolutely crapy instrument (headache and nausea after using them more tha 3 minutes).

So i did chase bino in the 200-400 euros range, and bought the kowa.
In this bino i found the apparent exterior quality really really nice.

Optically the field of view is huge comparing to my cheap 7X50 paralux porro, the color rendering is natural and better than the yellow tint of the paralux....that are the only two better point !!
Brightness is a little bit more on the porro, but the huge difference is sharpness across the field of view. On the kowa it is nothing close to 91% writted on allbinos website.

The center is crystal clear, but only at 30% of this center zone the image already soften and is not quite as sharp as in the center.
Worst : the right field on both tube is far worst than the left one.
On the right tube there is a zone amost in the center (like a little cloud) that is blurrier than the outer periphery.

Strange thing is that on the crappy bushnell and opticron instruments i could put on focus the blurry periphery (with the center out of focus), which is impossible to do with the kowa.!?

So i understand that in optic you pay for what you have and it is absolutely my fault.
I have never use an alpha bino, but i think i am goint to look at it.
My visual accuity is good and it s annoying me to not have a very good image throughout my binocular.

The only thing that i don't understand is the ranking on allbino website...so i don't know if i have a bad sample...?
Chris223 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 19th January 2018, 12:04   #2
Stephen Mark
Registered User

 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: New Bern NC
Posts: 405
It sounds like you got a bad copy and I would see about exchanging it. If you can afford it the Kowa Genesis 8-33 should give you what you need without paying an alpha price. You might also look at the Zeiss Conquest HD in 8-32. Either one is about as good as your going to do short of paying two grand for an alpha.
Steve
Stephen Mark is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 19th January 2018, 12:27   #3
jring
Registered User

 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,082
Hi,

sounds indeed like a lemon - please try to return it. The asymmetric sharpness pattern is quite tell-tale for sth quite wrong with the optics.

That being said, the allbinos report on the BD XD was a bit more enthusiastic than what I had read elsewhere... The truth is probably somewhere in between.

Joachim
jring is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Friday 19th January 2018, 19:01   #4
Troubador
Moderator
 
Troubador's Avatar

 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 9,191
I absolutely agree with Stephen and Joachim.
You have been sold a defective product so I would reject it and send it back to the supplier and ask them to supply one that they have checked.

Stephen's suggestion to consider Kowa Genesis 8x33 or Zeiss Conquest 8x32 is what I would suggest too, I would also add Meopta B1 MeoStar 8x32. These are all excellent instruments for much less than alpha prices. I am lucky enough to own some alphas but I use all of these binos regularly and they are very satisfying to use.

Bon chance.

Lee
Troubador is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Wednesday 31st January 2018, 19:32   #5
Chris223
Registered User

 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: somewhere
Posts: 53
Finally i sent to kowa the citrus fruit...and i already have a new one !
Oustanding support from Kowa !

So i did a quick test of the bino and it is far better !! Maybe the right tube is not as sharp of the left one but nothing to compare with my first (in fact second) sample.
There is a little play in this copy on the occular focusing, but nothing bad i think.

Maybe i should have bought the Genesis but this is another story...
Chris223 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 11th March 2018, 00:14   #6
black crow
Registered User

 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: ashland oregon
Posts: 2,056
Nice to know they did right by you. I've heard good things about Kowa.
__________________
Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno.
black crow is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Sunday 11th March 2018, 07:10   #7
Troubador
Moderator
 
Troubador's Avatar

 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 9,191
Chris

Try turning the binos upside down and then look through them to check the sharpness difference between the two sides.

If the tube that is now on the right-hand side is now not so sharp, the problem is your right eye, not the binos.

Also try re-adjusting the dioptre by looking at a brick wall at a medium distance. There are lots of lines and details in a brick wall that make it easier to tell when the focus in the left tube is perfect and when the dioptre on the right-hand tube matches it.

Bon chance

Lee
Troubador is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 10th May 2018, 16:09   #8
GrandNagus50
Registered User

 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Bay Area, California, USA
Posts: 20
I guess this thread has been in progress a while, but I don't visit the forum all that often and I just noticed it.

I was surprised by the unhappiness of the OP with the Kowa bd xd prominar 8x32 binoculars until I read that indeed it has turned out that his pair was defective. I purchased these based on the positive Allbinos review, and I have been very happy with them. They are not quite on the level of premium binoculars, particularly models that are larger and brighter. But for the price I paid, I have found them excellent. I went recently on a bird photography trip to Ecuador and took the Kowas instead of larger binocs in order to save space and weight. They performed beautifully. They are now my go-to travel binoculars. I would recommend them to anyone looking for a pair of midsize binocs for travel.

Last edited by GrandNagus50 : Thursday 10th May 2018 at 16:11.
GrandNagus50 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Review of Traveller 8x32 Troubador Opticron 24 Monday 1st January 2018 17:47
Polish 8x32 HD review dipped Leica 4 Wednesday 15th September 2010 16:29
Minox BD8x32BL asph vs. Kowa 8x32 review kman Minox 14 Tuesday 16th December 2008 01:51
Review of 8x32 EL Jonathan B. Swarovski 9 Wednesday 9th July 2008 17:24
Kowa 8x32 vs Minox BD BL 8x32 asph kman Others 8 Sunday 4th May 2008 15:30



Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.14942694 seconds with 19 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 14:44.