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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JulianSanchez" data-source="post: 3357249" data-attributes="member: 136369">Hi all!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />I am a spanish birdwatcher looking for my first "good quality" scope.I am thinking of an all-porpouse scope, able to focus long-distance birds in lake shores and to spend some time in look-outs at national reserves, expecting also to take it with me in parks and "less ambitious" walks.I would say it´s important to me to get a scope with a good-very good high mag performance, reaching those birds "not reachable" with mi bins.The weight doesn´t seem a trouble to me.The issue is..... that my budget is not high; around 800 pound/1000 euros for scope+eyepiece.I have already bought a second hand 055 Manfrotto tripod and a 502 HD head (very heavy set, I know :smoke<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />.I am not planning to practice digiscoping, and I don´t regret second-hand.I was think in a 80mms fluorite second hand old scope, as Kowa 823/4, TSN3/4, Swa AT80HD, Leica APO televid 77......with an 20-60 zoom ep, but.......Would you consider a new ED scope?;  scopes like Kowa 663, Opticron ED, Pentax, Kite......I think they usually have wider angle zoom eyepieces than the old fluorite examples commented, and could be affordable to my budget.I am afraid to buy an old fluorite Kowa, for example, and to suffer a very narrow zoom view at high mags or a blurred image, compared to what I could get with a smooth recent zoom ep fitted on a new ED scope.I am opened to all alternatives and opinions, keeping in mind that the scope should match with my tripod and head.Thanks to all from the south of Europe!! :t::t::t:</blockquote>

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