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Message: <blockquote data-quote="spacepilot" data-source="post: 1628302" data-attributes="member: 76307">Lol, it's funny that you said that. After I got the 8x and 10x, I almost pulled the trigger a couple times on the 12x SE samples I found on the internet . But I have already spent too much on bins this year. My wife said it's alright to buy if I really want them. Well, that just increased the guilt of spending money on my toys... (Maybe that was the effect she was after all along. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> ) In the end, there are things on my list that will help my time with the birds better than the 12x SE, such as a pair of warm boots, a better backup for the 8X SE than the Cascades porros I have, and something that will help me see across the pond better, a Canon IS or a small scope maybe. But if I ever get into astronomy, you bet I'll be looking for a pair of 12x SE.  :t:Ning</blockquote>