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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jring" data-source="post: 3587711" data-attributes="member: 133897">Hi,optics doesn't get bad if not abused... my early SE 10x42 is from the early nineties and my Kowa TSN-3 is probably even older... both give a top notch view even when compared to todays alphas...The only thing that might be missing on these is Lotutec - I know it's been around in 2009 - not sure about 2008... but that's a minor inconvenience in my opinion - I rarely get my glass dirty and thus clean very infrequently...PS: I found a used non-lotutec pair at some store in germany for 999€ - not sure if that's significantly below your price atm - if you're interested give me a yell.Also between 900 and 1000€ is the going price for 8x32 on ebay - 10x is kinda rare. There is one currently on sale in Hamburg (with paperwork from April this year) but no paypal accepted which would be a no-go for me on ebay...Joachim</blockquote>