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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sollas" data-source="post: 3610871" data-attributes="member: 67713">I'm also predominantly a birder but in truth just like to have my bins with me if I'm out fishing or hill walking.My current bins are Nikon 8x32SE porros which are very nice but time has come to move onwards and upwards as they say. I wouldn't really need them for that first and last 20 mins of light that everyone goes on about. Much of my viewing is daytime.On the subject of dim light and brightness would you say the HT's offer a brighter view on a dull day than the SVFP's or is there not much in it?At around 600g the SV 8x32FP are similar to my Nikons so the 800g of the HT is worth consideration. I think they both offer wow factor in many respects and are a step up from my 8x32SE's. I also kind of wonder with the visual quality and lightness of the 8x32's where this really leaves some of these top end 8x42's as I have difficulty in figuring out their benefits.But then again I'm also thinking might be nice to have the option of 8x42's which is of course where the HT would win.</blockquote>