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Jose605

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Not sure if they are butterflies or moths. Spotted this morning.

Any idea please?

Thank you!

Jose
 

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THE_FERN

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Without giving exact IDs I can point you in the right direction:

First is a skipper. There are several candidates like mallow skipper and I suspect it's not identifiable from this view [but worth checking carefully].

Second looks like Silver y moth, Autographa gamma. But again, suggest checking carefully what other possibilities there are in the area.
 

Jose605

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Thank you The_Fern! You are probably right about both of them.

Unfortunately these are the only 2 photos I could take.

The Silver Y probably easier to ID correctly. The skipper a little harder from this angle. Maybe the type of plant could give us a clue? The exact location is Huelva, right on the coast.

Thanks again.
 

THE_FERN

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Thank you The_Fern! You are probably right about both of them.

Unfortunately these are the only 2 photos I could take.

The Silver Y probably easier to ID correctly. The skipper a little harder from this angle. Maybe the type of plant could give us a clue? The exact location is Huelva, right on the coast.

Thanks again.
From previous Q & A on skippers I think there are several candidates [IIRC]. If it's nectaring the plant will be no clue. This thread links to a guide which will help you decide:

https://www.birdforum.net/threads/butterflies-of-the-iberian-peninsula-free-pdf-guide.402673/

[Edit: Seeing the pictures on a large screen. The first is a moth, not a skipper. Unidentifiable with certainly, but probably another silver y or similar.]
 
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aeshna5

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Definitely Silver Y for the moth.

Image of the skipper isn't really good for ID but time of year might make Mallow Skipper a good candidate.
 

Jose605

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Definitely Silver Y for the moth.

Image of the skipper isn't really good for ID but time of year might make Mallow Skipper a good candidate.
Much appreciated, aeshna5. Yes, most probably Mallow. And thanks for confirming the moth (y)
 

Jose605

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From previous Q & A on skippers I think there are several candidates [IIRC]. If it's nectaring the plant will be no clue. This thread links to a guide which will help you decide:

https://www.birdforum.net/threads/butterflies-of-the-iberian-peninsula-free-pdf-guide.402673/

[Edit: Seeing the pictures on a large screen. The first is a moth, not a skipper. Unidentifiable with certainly, but probably another silver y or similar.]
Really!? Ok, it could be. All I can say is that if flew really fast in every direction; that's why I decided to take the photo with the zoom to secure a shot (even if it was a poor one), instead of approaching it and losing it again. Thank you for the additional input (y)
 

THE_FERN

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Really!? Ok, it could be. All I can say is that if flew really fast in every direction; that's why I decided to take the photo with the zoom to secure a shot (even if it was a poor one), instead of approaching it and losing it again. Thank you for the additional input (y)
If you zoom in you can see the "skipper" has a fat hairy body, small eyes and uniform antennae without clubs at the end. These are all characteristics of moths
 
ZEISS. Discover the fascinating world of birds, and win a birding trip to Columbia
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