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2017 Western Palearctic Big Year (1 Viewer)

Paul Higson

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Would be great if the WP list could be coded, like the ABA, ( or is it already ? ), then see where they plan/hope to see the Code 4 and 5 birds.
 

dantheman

Bah humbug
They've missed out Britain! (Shetland etc and the random yanks - but that may be twitching, to fit in, and you can't be everywhere at once).

Kuwait pops up twice, but returns (one or both winter periods) for Cape Verdes, Azores, Israel and Egypt (+ Kuwait again) at least would maximise the chances of longer staying rarities that turn up. But bump up the cost/miss other things?

Jan and Feb should be a lot busier imo - unless they are planning on using that time for local birding/twitching some of the above.
 
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Paul Chapman

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Would be great if the WP list could be coded, like the ABA, ( or is it already ? ), then see where they plan/hope to see the Code 4 and 5 birds.

Paul

The Netfugl list designates 'true rarities' with an asterisk:-

http://www.netfugl.dk/wplist.php

I anticipate that you are referring to the regular species that are range restricted (eg Atlas Flycatcher, Dupont's Lark, Zino's Petrel, etc) or regular rarities (eg Ring-necked Duck, Pectoral Sandpiper, etc) - the equivalent of Code 2 and 3 on an ABA system. Code 4 and 5 species in a WP context would be the likes of Hermit Thrush and Eastern Crowned Warbler.

All the best
 

JeroenVanheuverswyn

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Paul

The Netfugl list designates 'true rarities' with an asterisk:-

http://www.netfugl.dk/wplist.php

I anticipate that you are referring to the regular species that are range restricted (eg Atlas Flycatcher, Dupont's Lark, Zino's Petrel, etc) or regular rarities (eg Ring-necked Duck, Pectoral Sandpiper, etc) - the equivalent of Code 2 and 3 on an ABA system. Code 4 and 5 species in a WP context would be the likes of Hermit Thrush and Eastern Crowned Warbler.

All the best

For sure they won't manage all equivalent of lvl 1-2-3. Since at least one species (Algerian nuthatch) is kind of off-limits for everyone. And wondering if 8 days of "Suthern Europé (Spain, Italy, France)" will cover for all the island endemics in the Mediterranean Sea.
 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!
They've missed out Britain!

Very sensible, I don't blame them at all - what could they get here, that they can't get more easily elsewhere? Ireland and the Azores are just as good or better for seabirds and "the random yanks", and for the rest, a country that's had its wildlife most comprehensively wrecked of anywhere (see State of Nature report), and may well have its borders closed to EU passport holders by next year anyway.
 

Jos Stratford

Beast from the East
Ongoing issue for future attempts on this record will be defining the borders of the WP. Standard BWP? Dutch? Hadoram Shirihai's upcoming?

Personally would follow the latter to include Iran and the whole Arabian peninsula, but these guys are following the first. Either way, will be an interesting one to follow. Far more than the global one in my book.
 

Jos Stratford

Beast from the East
... may well have its borders closed to EU passport holders by next year anyway.

Really? You amaze me Nutcracker, they will manage to get into Mauritania, Kuwait, Israel, etc, etc, but be barred from the UK? Could you please refrain from repeatedly posting this kind of false bollocks in as many unrelated threads as you can.
 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!
It's what the UKIP conference was pressing for a couple of days ago, "make sure of a hard brexit", complete disassociation from Europe; several prominent govt. ministers the same.
 

Paul Chapman

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For sure they won't manage all equivalent of lvl 1-2-3. Since at least one species (Algerian nuthatch) is kind of off-limits for everyone. And wondering if 8 days of "Suthern Europé (Spain, Italy, France)" will cover for all the island endemics in the Mediterranean Sea.

The reality is that this will surely be more flexible than that. You've got a defined list of targets - some of which will be time of year and country or even location specific - and some will be a case of sweeping up when necessary if they are getting away on you. I suspect that flexibility built in for twitching but taking the opportunity when available to knock off other species that do require a specific element will be important if you want to set a challenging bar.

All the best
 

Jos Stratford

Beast from the East
It's what the UKIP conference was pressing for a couple of days ago, "make sure of a hard brexit", complete disassociation from Europe; several prominent govt. ministers the same.

It is nothing to do with a Western Palearctic Big Year, it is nothing to do with reality. And, as you well know, regardless of how the negotiations go, borders are not going to close to tourists. The UK will still be in the EU next year anyhow, so all you say is even more tosh.

Why not leave your views on Brexit to the Brexit thread?
 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!
And wondering if 8 days of "Suthern Europé (Spain, Italy, France)" will cover for all the island endemics in the Mediterranean Sea.

The reality is that this will surely be more flexible than that. ...

There's quite a lot of gaps in their itinerary, which will presumably be used for flexible coverage of island endemics, etc. - 18-31 Jan, 22-28 Feb, 9-17 Mar, 11-24 Jun, etc. :t:

Not sure ending the year in Iceland is so good an idea though, very limited daylight, for very little potential return
 

Andy Adcock

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England
There's quite a lot of gaps in their itinerary, which will presumably be used for flexible coverage of island endemics, etc. - 18-31 Jan, 22-28 Feb, 9-17 Mar, 11-24 Jun, etc. :t:

What list are they using, they don't all accept the Iberian splits do they?


Andy
 

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