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2017 Western Palearctic Big Year (1 Viewer)

Muppit17

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as the link I gave from Yoav implies that they may well be Cory's - though it seems odd that they would be...

although purely academic as far as the thread is concerned. I revisited the link and I believe, although I would need Yoav to confirm, that his point was that the assumption was that all were Scopoli's (at least in the Med), yet he was finding birds that showed characteristics of Cory's off Ashdod. I think by implication these were the exceptions. In the Gulf of Aqaba, they should be Cory's anyway - far too confusing.

Sounds a similar story line to the small black and white shearwaters off Eilat - based on whose list you follow I think that this record (s) started as Audubon's, went through Persian and is now Tropical. I certainly cant keep up.
 

Brian J Small

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although purely academic as far as the thread is concerned. I revisited the link and I believe, although I would need Yoav to confirm, that his point was that the assumption was that all were Scopoli's (at least in the Med), yet he was finding birds that showed characteristics of Cory's off Ashdod. I think by implication these were the exceptions. In the Gulf of Aqaba, they should be Cory's anyway - far too confusing.

Confusing indeed as in Shirihai's Birds of israel he talks of birds migrating north inland at Eilat...

B
 

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Sounds a similar story line to the small black and white shearwaters off Eilat - based on whose list you follow I think that this record (s) started as Audubon's, went through Persian and is now Tropical. I certainly cant keep up.

Depending on which world checklist you follow these may still be Persian, I think only H&M have Persian lumped into Tropical.

Niels
 

Paul Chapman

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They are up to 490 now with a nice Saker in Hungary!

Not exactly on the way to Kuwait!

Bateleur 20th bird I've not seen in the Western Palearctic and Saker 21st! :-C If they squeeze in Rock Partridge before Kuwait, then that would be 22....... I'm hoping to get one or two back next week.

Jon - yes I know that I should go to Hungary!

Levant Sparrowhawk, Semicollared Flycatcher and Saker are all really good news aren't they? Not difficult but otherwise could have been time-consuming or disruptive?

All the best
 

Jon Turner

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Saker 21st!

Jon - yes I know that I should go to Hungary!



All the best

We saw them in Turkey. Hint: go to Turkey!

A comment on Farcelook mentions BB Albert too. Not sure if it was a comment from them or a suggestion from someone else. The Saker looks like a one-off stopover.
 

Captain_of_Crunch

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I don't get the 'Difference List' - how brief are these sightings? What is the Caspian Plover story? I can understand this sort of stuff on a day race but not on an extended birding trip with few targets, with the group sticking together, in a non-rain forest region.

cheers, alan

I guess they are going for the 'Bird Race' rules, and I think they mentioned at the start of their blog that a species was only countable if seen by all three. Reading their birding accounts, they do seem to take the approach of spreading out over a large area, presumably to cover more ground, which inevitably results in missed birds.

Other than the Caspian Plover maybe, most of their 'missed birds' seem to be gettable at a later stage.

The American Herring Gull saga in Portugal took another twist: The original AHG wasa distinctive individual with a damaged wing. A few days ago, a 'Herring' Gull with a damaged wing was photographed, but showed some several features contra AHG (e.g. red eyering). It seems likely that this is not the bird initially reported but purely another gull with a very similar distinctive injury so it seems AHG is still safe (-ish) on their list. They may want to see another just to be sure :)
 

Muppit17

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Levant Sparrowhawk, Semicollared Flycatcher and Saker are all really good news aren't they?

Could have been easy in Georgia - I got all three in 2011. Including Levant SH in Kazbegi (Stepantsminda) itself, SC Fly right by the main road from Tbilisi, only Saker needed a diversion. But you are right to say better in the bank.
 

Muppit17

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Not exactly on the way to Kuwait!

There are limited flight options out of Israel and to go to Kuwait there is really no choice but to go back into Europe and then on. You could try a land crossing to Jordan, Egypt (maybe even Lebanon now) and then picking up connection I guess. I've done via Istanbul or Frankfurt in the past - sometimes wondered if it was easier just to come back to blighty even though it looks crazy on the map. Wonder if they did the logistics first and then looked for what was there - or targeted the Saker?
 

Jon Turner

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There are limited flight options out of Israel and to go to Kuwait there is really no choice but to go back into Europe and then on. You could try a land crossing to Jordan, Egypt (maybe even Lebanon now) and then picking up connection I guess. I've done via Istanbul or Frankfurt in the past - sometimes wondered if it was easier just to come back to blighty even though it looks crazy on the map. Wonder if they did the logistics first and then looked for what was there - or targeted the Saker?

If they thought it was a difficult bird and already had the logistics in place to go via Hungary, and someone in Israel told them of a nailed on Saker then it's a no-brainer. Can't find any news anywhere yet today.

Helgoland or Kuwait!!!?
 

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