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<blockquote data-quote="landonspop" data-source="post: 1832565" data-attributes="member: 86341"><p>If I could get a bin for $300 that truly performed as a $700+ name brand, I might try it. But if I drop it or it requires warranty work in a year and the company is gone, then I just payed $300 for 1 year use. Using your math, this would be equal to paying $3000 for 10 years use, which would get me the very best.</p><p></p><p>We have all seen how China has made things look like the real thing, even ignoring copy rights. But, I have seen some of these items and they usually are inferior to the real thing. Cheap = cheap sometimes.</p><p></p><p>I figure that even the best bins cost less than $1000 to make, maybe not even close to that, so it should be possible to make decent bins for much less, especially with cheap labor. Retail stores have to make at least 25% profit. Large companies have more overhead, marketing costs, and employee costs than a start up small company getting bins made in China.</p><p></p><p>I believe in competition... so these Chinese brands could do a couple of things: here are a few</p><p>1) Be as good as advertised and force the big brand's prices down to compete, which in turn could put some out of business ... </p><p>2) Or, they might grow to the point where their prices have to go up to cover growing costs</p><p>3) go under and leave a lot of people holding junk when they break (this scares me)</p><p></p><p>So do we wait and see or jump in while prices are good?</p><p></p><p>I know there are people here that know a lot about bins. I would like to hear what they have to say about these brands without prejudice. </p><p></p><p>I am getting the feeling that some of the posts I am reading are coming from biased opinions vs true comparisons. For and against. I feel that I have to throw out the best and worst reviews and focus on the rest.</p><p></p><p>If you could get a Chinese brand with a full money back guarantee if not satisfied, what more could you ask for? Especially if all it costs was say $10 shipping the product back... no restocking fees or deduction for original shipping. </p><p></p><p>If they really believed in their product, they should be able to cover all shipping costs even if you decided to ship them back because they were not as advertised. If they do this, it should be a no brainer to give them a try/chance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="landonspop, post: 1832565, member: 86341"] If I could get a bin for $300 that truly performed as a $700+ name brand, I might try it. But if I drop it or it requires warranty work in a year and the company is gone, then I just payed $300 for 1 year use. Using your math, this would be equal to paying $3000 for 10 years use, which would get me the very best. We have all seen how China has made things look like the real thing, even ignoring copy rights. But, I have seen some of these items and they usually are inferior to the real thing. Cheap = cheap sometimes. I figure that even the best bins cost less than $1000 to make, maybe not even close to that, so it should be possible to make decent bins for much less, especially with cheap labor. Retail stores have to make at least 25% profit. Large companies have more overhead, marketing costs, and employee costs than a start up small company getting bins made in China. I believe in competition... so these Chinese brands could do a couple of things: here are a few 1) Be as good as advertised and force the big brand's prices down to compete, which in turn could put some out of business ... 2) Or, they might grow to the point where their prices have to go up to cover growing costs 3) go under and leave a lot of people holding junk when they break (this scares me) So do we wait and see or jump in while prices are good? I know there are people here that know a lot about bins. I would like to hear what they have to say about these brands without prejudice. I am getting the feeling that some of the posts I am reading are coming from biased opinions vs true comparisons. For and against. I feel that I have to throw out the best and worst reviews and focus on the rest. If you could get a Chinese brand with a full money back guarantee if not satisfied, what more could you ask for? Especially if all it costs was say $10 shipping the product back... no restocking fees or deduction for original shipping. If they really believed in their product, they should be able to cover all shipping costs even if you decided to ship them back because they were not as advertised. If they do this, it should be a no brainer to give them a try/chance. [/QUOTE]
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