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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ksmit123" data-source="post: 3467448" data-attributes="member: 135185">My fingers also continued to irritatingly touch when I used the Vanguard Endeavour ED II 10x42. I would be interested to try/test the Spirit ED in a 8x36 configuration but as I elucidate in a previous post I'll avoid purchasing a Spirit ED due to variations in models/inconsistencies and have already scratched it off my list.As I said I can understand your reluctance to stipulate on "sweet spot percentages/amounts" and also taking into account the plethora of other factors which determine a respectable optical peformance, I just find I need to be impressed in regards to a binoculars optics straight out of the packaging. If not, I'll return the binoculars the vast majority of time within days. I also dislike having to find/list reasons why I should keep a pair of binoculars if one thing, however small is off or not quite right then the whole binocular might as well be useless.Yes, that is clearer. I'm starting to concluded that I might try my luck with the Hawke Frontier ED 8x32 and if I'm not impressed with them I may consider the Kite Lynx HD and or the Maven B3.</blockquote>