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<blockquote data-quote="peatmoss" data-source="post: 3471387" data-attributes="member: 119647"><p>Hello Steve:</p><p></p><p> I think I was thinking more along the lines of the Kite and the Nikon rather than the Maven. Those old threads have all sort of merged into one cloudy mess in my weary head.</p><p></p><p> I do agree that mid-sized bins tend to show their glare more easily than full-sized bins, and that ample eye relief can play an important role in minimizing glare's effects. What often happens for eyeglass wearers like me is that many 8x32s typically have rather tight eye relief, which makes eye position critical to avoid vignetting of the edge of the field of view. Problems arise when using a binocular which has both glare issues and tight eye relief because the eyeglass wearer cannot shift his eyes within the exit pupil to lessen the glare without losing part of the field of view. I suppose that's why I never got around to trying any of those models. A few posts mentioned tight eye relief for eyeglass wearers. And when glare issues were mentioned a few times, I decided to take a pass. I've probably got too many binoculars anyway.</p><p></p><p>Hello ksmit123.</p><p></p><p> Actually I have both models. Did I mention that I've probably got too many binoculars? I don't know of any accurate way to quantify the difference between how these two models handle glare. What I can say is that glare shows itself more often with the Meopro HD and that it often seems to have a greater affect on contrast with the Meopro HD. Does this render the bin useless? No, not for me. For me, the Meopro HD has just enough eye relief so that if I sense some glare I can often (but not always) shift my eyes a bit to lessen the glare's effects, while still maintaining a full field of view. However, this is possible because of how this particular bin happens to "fit" my face, and so it would not necessarily be applicable to how it fits your own face. If my eyeglasses were a bit larger or if my face were shaped a bit differently, then maybe the glare would be a larger issue. But luckily for me this is not the case. I suppose my thoughts on the Meopro HD can be summed up like this: great binocular for the price, but definitely try it first, to make sure the glare isn't an issue for you.</p><p></p><p> As for my describing the Viper HD as a safer bet, this is based on my understanding that you will be buying your binoculars by mail order, possibly internationally, sight unseen. I'd feel guilty if I recommended the Meopro HD to you, you ordered it from another country, and after it arrived you realized that the glare was a problem for you. The Viper HD on the other hand, is just an extremely competent binocular. It's not perfect, but in my view, its foibles are not of the sort that would seriously affect its usability in the way that the Meopro HD's glare can affect its.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="peatmoss, post: 3471387, member: 119647"] Hello Steve: I think I was thinking more along the lines of the Kite and the Nikon rather than the Maven. Those old threads have all sort of merged into one cloudy mess in my weary head. I do agree that mid-sized bins tend to show their glare more easily than full-sized bins, and that ample eye relief can play an important role in minimizing glare's effects. What often happens for eyeglass wearers like me is that many 8x32s typically have rather tight eye relief, which makes eye position critical to avoid vignetting of the edge of the field of view. Problems arise when using a binocular which has both glare issues and tight eye relief because the eyeglass wearer cannot shift his eyes within the exit pupil to lessen the glare without losing part of the field of view. I suppose that's why I never got around to trying any of those models. A few posts mentioned tight eye relief for eyeglass wearers. And when glare issues were mentioned a few times, I decided to take a pass. I've probably got too many binoculars anyway. Hello ksmit123. Actually I have both models. Did I mention that I've probably got too many binoculars? I don't know of any accurate way to quantify the difference between how these two models handle glare. What I can say is that glare shows itself more often with the Meopro HD and that it often seems to have a greater affect on contrast with the Meopro HD. Does this render the bin useless? No, not for me. For me, the Meopro HD has just enough eye relief so that if I sense some glare I can often (but not always) shift my eyes a bit to lessen the glare's effects, while still maintaining a full field of view. However, this is possible because of how this particular bin happens to "fit" my face, and so it would not necessarily be applicable to how it fits your own face. If my eyeglasses were a bit larger or if my face were shaped a bit differently, then maybe the glare would be a larger issue. But luckily for me this is not the case. I suppose my thoughts on the Meopro HD can be summed up like this: great binocular for the price, but definitely try it first, to make sure the glare isn't an issue for you. As for my describing the Viper HD as a safer bet, this is based on my understanding that you will be buying your binoculars by mail order, possibly internationally, sight unseen. I'd feel guilty if I recommended the Meopro HD to you, you ordered it from another country, and after it arrived you realized that the glare was a problem for you. The Viper HD on the other hand, is just an extremely competent binocular. It's not perfect, but in my view, its foibles are not of the sort that would seriously affect its usability in the way that the Meopro HD's glare can affect its. [/QUOTE]
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