I thought I'd make a separate thread for this. I have been able to bring several binoculars into my home (and a couple go back out) to try. My first attempt at purchasing a couple of bins for my wife and I.
As I try a few out, and have taken out onto trails, a few criteria have popped out as important, not necessarily in this order.
1) Eye Relief
2) Ease To Lock Onto An Image
3) Weight and Comfort. Easy to grasp and use, and weight on neck using a strap.
4) Image quality. I am appreciating the ability to render color, detail, with some pop to the image.
She wears contacts all the time, so eye relief isn't an issue. But it is for me. I wear glasses most of the time, so eye relief is important. Thus far, trying Celestron Granite bins, both a 7x33 and 8x42, the latter is better regarding eye relief, but I still don't see the absolute entire image when using my glasses. What I see is bright, crisp, and colorful with excellent contrast. In fact, I'd say it's the best in terms of rendering a great image.
The only bins thus far where I have been able to see the entire image with eyeglasses have been the two Prostaff 8x42 models, the 3S and 7, and the Carson 3D ED 8x42. I also have Athlon Midas UHD and Monarch 5 binoculars on their way in (both offering 19.5mm of eye relief). The Prostaffs have been the easiest to lock onto the image with my eyeglasses, by far.
But I'm also concerned with weight, which gets me to the meat of this post. The Granite 8x42s were causing a bit of a neck ache after an hour and a half or so. I was grateful to take them off my neck when I was hiking. I haven't tried them with the harness that came with them. I really should to see if that helps. Initially we were thinking about bins for excursions to marshes or to the ocean's edge, only briefly putting them on. But being able to wear them around on a nature hike that lasts longer than 15 minutes is probably worth considering in a pair of binoculars.
When I was first searching, I read mostly recommendations for 8x42s. And frankly, the Prostaff models are pretty light for their size. And they both offer great eye relief, but they're both at the narrower end of FOV. Perhaps that will have to be the tradeoff I make.
So now I'm reading that if you get a really good set of binoculars, you can get away with something like 8x32. But researching those, I'm not seeing too many with good eye relief. Nikon makes 8x30s in the Prostaff 7S and Monarch 7 lines, but the eye relief is short in those particular models, unlike the 8x42s.
Carson makes the 3D ED mode in an 8x32 with 19.5mm of eye relief. I'll probably try them, but I got in an 8x42 of those in from the Amazon Warehouse and I'm having difficulty getting a real sharp image out of them (and my right eye aches a bit after using them for a bit). The Granite and the Prostaff 7S render a much crisper, more detailed image. I'm wondering if I might have a bad sample of the Carson, given the excellent reviews they ordinarily get.
Otherwise, the other 8x32 (or 8x30) models from other brands offer 18mm of eye relief, at best. Many at under 15mm! Perhaps the 18mm might work, but the 17.5 of the Granite 8x42, as I mentioned, render me the full image.
For models with 18mm that are reasonably price, there's the Hawke Endurance ED, which gets mixed reviews from what I have read. And Zeiss has their Terra ED, which somewhat recently got redesigned, and as a result also offers 18mm of eye relief, but they're really more than I wanted to spend at retail. Adorama has them for $350, while most other retailers have them for $400. The Carsons are $255.
Honestly, I might end up living with the Prostaff 7S (or the Monarch 5) 8x42, as they're each about 20 ounces, and that's not too bad. Most of the other brands' 8x42s come in at around 24-26 ounces, and their 8x32s coming in around 19-20 ounces.
And, as their objective lenses are not going to be as large, I'm guessing it's probably important to get bins with ED and dielectric coatings to maximize the amount of light they will bring in.
So if anyone has any thoughts, any suggestions for where I might want to steer toward, I'd appreciate it. I will try the units that come with a harness (the Carson and Granite both do).
Jeff
As I try a few out, and have taken out onto trails, a few criteria have popped out as important, not necessarily in this order.
1) Eye Relief
2) Ease To Lock Onto An Image
3) Weight and Comfort. Easy to grasp and use, and weight on neck using a strap.
4) Image quality. I am appreciating the ability to render color, detail, with some pop to the image.
She wears contacts all the time, so eye relief isn't an issue. But it is for me. I wear glasses most of the time, so eye relief is important. Thus far, trying Celestron Granite bins, both a 7x33 and 8x42, the latter is better regarding eye relief, but I still don't see the absolute entire image when using my glasses. What I see is bright, crisp, and colorful with excellent contrast. In fact, I'd say it's the best in terms of rendering a great image.
The only bins thus far where I have been able to see the entire image with eyeglasses have been the two Prostaff 8x42 models, the 3S and 7, and the Carson 3D ED 8x42. I also have Athlon Midas UHD and Monarch 5 binoculars on their way in (both offering 19.5mm of eye relief). The Prostaffs have been the easiest to lock onto the image with my eyeglasses, by far.
But I'm also concerned with weight, which gets me to the meat of this post. The Granite 8x42s were causing a bit of a neck ache after an hour and a half or so. I was grateful to take them off my neck when I was hiking. I haven't tried them with the harness that came with them. I really should to see if that helps. Initially we were thinking about bins for excursions to marshes or to the ocean's edge, only briefly putting them on. But being able to wear them around on a nature hike that lasts longer than 15 minutes is probably worth considering in a pair of binoculars.
When I was first searching, I read mostly recommendations for 8x42s. And frankly, the Prostaff models are pretty light for their size. And they both offer great eye relief, but they're both at the narrower end of FOV. Perhaps that will have to be the tradeoff I make.
So now I'm reading that if you get a really good set of binoculars, you can get away with something like 8x32. But researching those, I'm not seeing too many with good eye relief. Nikon makes 8x30s in the Prostaff 7S and Monarch 7 lines, but the eye relief is short in those particular models, unlike the 8x42s.
Carson makes the 3D ED mode in an 8x32 with 19.5mm of eye relief. I'll probably try them, but I got in an 8x42 of those in from the Amazon Warehouse and I'm having difficulty getting a real sharp image out of them (and my right eye aches a bit after using them for a bit). The Granite and the Prostaff 7S render a much crisper, more detailed image. I'm wondering if I might have a bad sample of the Carson, given the excellent reviews they ordinarily get.
Otherwise, the other 8x32 (or 8x30) models from other brands offer 18mm of eye relief, at best. Many at under 15mm! Perhaps the 18mm might work, but the 17.5 of the Granite 8x42, as I mentioned, render me the full image.
For models with 18mm that are reasonably price, there's the Hawke Endurance ED, which gets mixed reviews from what I have read. And Zeiss has their Terra ED, which somewhat recently got redesigned, and as a result also offers 18mm of eye relief, but they're really more than I wanted to spend at retail. Adorama has them for $350, while most other retailers have them for $400. The Carsons are $255.
Honestly, I might end up living with the Prostaff 7S (or the Monarch 5) 8x42, as they're each about 20 ounces, and that's not too bad. Most of the other brands' 8x42s come in at around 24-26 ounces, and their 8x32s coming in around 19-20 ounces.
And, as their objective lenses are not going to be as large, I'm guessing it's probably important to get bins with ED and dielectric coatings to maximize the amount of light they will bring in.
So if anyone has any thoughts, any suggestions for where I might want to steer toward, I'd appreciate it. I will try the units that come with a harness (the Carson and Granite both do).
Jeff