8x32 SE? (1 Viewer)

[ceasar]

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This historical region in eastern Central Europe is currently divided between Poland and the Ukraine.

My grandfather spoke five languages including Klingonese, and he was a birdwatcher, as you can tell from our family crest.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Wappen_K%C3%B6nigreich_Galizien_%26_Lodomerien.png

"And the Raven, never flitting,
Still is sitting, still is sitting,
On the Klingon Crest (it's fitting!),
Just above Ukranski's door.
And the mournful cry is uttered,
None can enter: "Nevermore!"
Bob
(Poet Laureate of the ghosts of the Neander Valley!)

 

[brocknroller]

"And the Raven, never flitting,
Still is sitting, still is sitting,
On the Klingon Crest (it's fitting!),
Just above Ukranski's door.
And the mournful cry is uttered,
None can enter: "Nevermore!"
Bob
(Poet Laureate of the ghosts of the Neander Valley!)

QA TLHO' (I thank you).

There is nothing a poet-warrior enjoys more than a well-crafted parody of a poem or lyric, particularly with Klingon references, except perhaps a bottle of Blood Wine and a big bowl of fresh Gagh (serpent worms).

While some people (particularly humans) think that parodies (my own specialty, as well) are easy to write and inferior to the original poems or lyrics, Klingons know that assumption is simply false.

To parody Kahless is to channel the spirit of Kahless!

With an original poem or lyric, you are only bound by your imagination and the conventions of the time (with contemporary poetry, even those conventions are absent); however, in a parody, you have to keep the same meter/rhythm/style as the original while replacing the words and making their meaning internally consistent.

MajQa' (well done!)

 

[Ardy]

I must point out, Mr. B., that in the first "Star Trek" series, the writers did not realistically portray our anatomy or our culture.

B'rock

From what I remember,the Romulans said it was on spot.Especially the anatomy part.Of course you can't really fault that.TV screens were much smaller then....:eek!:

 

[brocknroller]

From what I remember,the Romulans said it was on spot.Especially the anatomy part.Of course you can't really fault that.TV screens were much smaller then....:eek!:

You can't believe a lying Romulan p'tak!

Let's hear it from the horse's mouth. Listen to what Worf had to say about his 23rd century Klingon ancestors' strangely human appearance in this clip from the ST: DS9 episode "Trials and Tribble-ations" in which he and other members of the DS9 crew travel back in time to Captain Kirk's Enterprise NCC-1701 (50 seconds into the clip when he is asked why the Klingons look different)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6KGOkzbf_c

Have you seen the new Star Trek movie? Ask your Romulan friends why they look so different than in the Star Trek TV series!

 

[ceasar]

QA TLHO' (I thank you).

There is nothing a poet-warrior enjoys more than a well-crafted parody of a poem or lyric, particularly with Klingon references, except perhaps a bottle of Blood Wine and a big bowl of fresh Gagh (serpent worms).

While some people (particularly humans) think that parodies (my own specialty, as well) are easy to write and inferior to the original poems or lyrics, Klingons know that assumption is simply false.

To parody Kahless is to channel the spirit of Kahless!

With an original poem or lyric, you are only bound by your imagination and the conventions of the time (with contemporary poetry, even those conventions are absent); however, in a parody, you have to keep the same meter/rhythm/style as the original while replacing the words and making their meaning internally consistent.

MajQa' (well done!)

Dziekuje!

Bob

 

[Ardy]

You can't believe a lying Romulan p'tak!

I only know that they were using SE's :-O

 

[brocknroller]

I only know that they were using SE's :-O

Did you get the serial #? If it's a 8x32 505 or 550, ask them if they would interested in trading their SEs for an 8x32 LX.

Space travel is too harsh an activity for the SEs.

Thanks.

Brock

 

[Ardy]

Did you get the serial #? If it's a 8x32 505 or 550, ask them if they would interested in trading their SEs for an 8x32 LX.

Brock

"reH 'eb tu'lu'

 

[brocknroller]

"reH 'eb tu'lu'

QA TLHO' reH nay'meylIjyIn Dujablu'jaj.

 

[CLRobles]

Yes, those were his descendants who landed on earth in Switzerland in the early 1300s and were later instrumental in establishing the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

They changed their name to "Habsburg" to sound indigenous and the name of the House changed from the House of Kahless to the House of Habsburg. They became a leading ruling family in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. The ruled over Austria for six centuries.

When the Austria-Hungary Army was in need of optics, the House of Habsburg, in honor of their Klingon heritage, founded Kahles Optik.

They dropped the second "s" as to not be mistaken for Germans (they also wore human prosthetic masks in those days, because of alien persecution), and founded the optics company in Austria-Hungary in 1898.

The Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria (Королівство Галичини і Лодомерії) where my adopted grandfather lived at the time, after fleeing persecution during the Bolshevist Revolution in the Ukraine, was a kingdom dependent to the Habsburg Monarchy.

This historical region in eastern Central Europe is currently divided between Poland and the Ukraine.

My grandfather spoke five languages including Klingonese (tlhIngan Hol), and he was a birdwatcher, as you can tell from our family crest.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Wappen_K%C3%B6nigreich_Galizien_%26_Lodomerien.png

tIq yIn Kahles 'ej tuq vo' Habsburg

 

[brocknroller]

tIq yIn Kahles 'ej tuq vo' Habsburg

majQa' tIqjaj yInlIj 'ej bIchepjaj CLRobles!

Or in your language, tich tor ang tesmur! (you are Vulcan, aren't you?)

 

[CLRobles]

majQa' tIqjaj yInlIj 'ej bIchepjaj CLRobles!

Or in your language, tich tor ang tesmur! (you are Vulcan, aren't you?)

SoH 'oH val 'ej HoS B'Rock! jIH 'oH Vulcan. yab qaSpa' taHvIp 'ej vIt vo' wa'. tich tor ang tesmur B'Rock!

 

[falcondude]

"reH 'eb tu'lu'

Is this supposed to be unofficial Birdforum language? I need a google translator.:-O

 

[Kevin Purcell]

Is this supposed to be unofficial Birdforum language? I need a google translator.:-O

I have an American Crow here in a Big Leaf Maple just outside my window who seems to be reciting Klingon poetry.

The Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria (Королівство Галичини і Лодомерії) where my adopted grandfather lived at the time, after fleeing persecution during the Bolshevist Revolution in the Ukraine, was a kingdom dependent to the Habsburg Monarchy.

You adopted your grandfather? Ah, the Klingon time machine technology is more powerful than I thought.

This is starting to sound like Zaphod Beelblebrox's story about his grandfather, Zaphod Beelblebrox III. It's a complicated story involving a condom and a time machine.

Speaking of time machine technology just think how useful that would be for birding. How many times have you heard "It was over there 5 minutes ago".

Eck'E'Th Ump!

 

[John Dracon]

When I was a kid, the rage among the pre-adolescents was to speak pig Latin. My tongue was too thick. We were enamoured with Buck Rogers, not Star Wars, but my children and grandchildren sure like Star Wars. John

 

[brocknroller]

I have an American Crow here in a Big Leaf Maple just outside my window who seems to be reciting Klingon poetry.

You adopted your grandfather? Ah, the Klingon time machine technology is more powerful than I thought.

This is starting to sound like Zaphod Beelblebrox's story about his grandfather, Zaphod Beelblebrox III. It's a complicated story involving a condom and a time machine.

Speaking of time machine technology just think how useful that would be for birding. How many times have you heard "It was over there 5 minutes ago".

Eck'E'Th Ump!

Dear Fellow Hitchhiker (aka Chevy Imperfect):

No, it's a only human/tlhIngan Hol syntax paradox. My Klingon grandfather was adopted by humans.

As I'm sure you know, the Vulcan High Counsel has determined that time travel does not exist.

To Hell with the Vulcan High Counsel, the pile of pointy eared rotting forshak!


It's an English/

When I was a kid, the rage among the pre-adolescents was to speak pig Latin. My tongue was too thick. We were enamoured with Buck Rogers, not Star Wars, but my children and grandchildren sure like Star Wars. John

I didn't realize that pigs on earth could talk any human language let alone Latin! Or is this perhaps another human/tlhIngan Hol syntax paradox?

Ah, Ming the Merciless. I suspect he was a Klingon!

The character of a Klingon poet-warrior is measured not only by the metal of his blade--but also by the mettle of his words.

 

[Ardy]

Here is my initial impression of the recently acquired Zeiss 8x32 fl and the 8x32 SE's I already had.The Zeiss are very sharp out to about 70% of center,where the image softens.At about 85% the image degrades noticably,and remains like that to the edge.This must be astigmatism for it can't be focused out.The SE's remain sharp to 95% of the edge,and this last 5% can be focused out.Very color neutral,much like the SE's something I like.In doing a line test at 25ft. the SE's could resolve 1/16" print clearly,but the FL's were hard to see at that.No problem at all with 1/8" print though.The Fl's were very comfortable in the hands,I think more so than the SE's.Both were very good in low light,as good or better than some of my 42's,that's pretty remarkable.It would be a very close call,but a very slight edge to the FL's on low light resolve.I noticed no vignetting in either sample,and no CA that was noticable.I rarely ever notice it and am not going to start looking for it)Depth of field was better on the SE's but respectable on the FL's.3D image of course went to the porro.
Overall,I could be happy with the FL's as a year round bino......if...just..if...the SE's weren't so darn good.They are sharper,bigger sweet spot,more 3d into the image,and a joy for fair weather birding.The Fl's will be my winter glass for now.Still haven't tried the EL's or Ultravids but will.The SE's will be my summer glass.The SE's would be a year round glass,if just based on the optics.If I had to pick the one thing that is a fault in the FL's, it would be the sagittal focus astigmatism.Other than that I find it a remarkable bino.

 

[bralk]

Winter and Summer bins

Overall,I could be happy with the FL's as a year round bino......if...just..if...the SE's weren't so darn good.They are sharper,bigger sweet spot,more 3d into the image,and a joy for fair weather birding.The Fl's will be my winter glass for now.Still haven't tried the EL's or Ultravids but will.The SE's will be my summer glass.The SE's would be a year round glass,if just based on the optics.If I had to pick the one thing that is a fault in the FL's, it would be the sagittal focus astigmatism.Other than that I find it a remarkable bino.

This is also true if you compare the 7X42 FL´s to the 8X32 SE´s.

cheers

Tom

 

[edwincjones]

does any dealer still have the new 8x32 SEs in the US?

edj

 

[brocknroller]

does any dealer still have the new 8x32 SEs in the US?

edj

B & H Photo has them, but not in stock. You need to special order them.

I just looked at their Website and the price jumped from $499 to $574.

They might have read our BF SE threads!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/146143-USA/Nikon_7381_8x32_Premier_SE_Binocular.html

You could try a "Wanted" ad on BF Classifieds and Astromart. You might get one for $100 less, particularly on Amart, which is a buyer's market.

Also, look in the Amart archives and use the search engine to see if anyone who bought an SE off Amart is interested in selling it or trading for a bin you have. I did a couple deals that way.

Sometimes people get excited about their new "toy" but then put it in the closet and forget about it. Or they buy more than one sample.

Nikon has a No Fault repair policy on its used bins. $20 for repairs and shipping, so there's only a $20 advantage to buying a new one if you can get a good used sample.