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<blockquote data-quote="edz" data-source="post: 969681" data-attributes="member: 44073"><p>Well, I'm caught up with interest in these binoculars. I dug a bit deeper for more written information on both the 8x42 and the 10x42. </p><p></p><p>First I found that one seasoned tester found the eye relief to measure over 15mm on the 8x. That would be more than enough for me with my eyeglasses. Then I thought about the narrow 6.25° fov in the 8x model. But when I checked my stable, I found of 3 other 8x40/8x42s that I own, only one of them is wider than that. My favorite, the Swift Ultralite is narrower by a bit. And I've never felt that to be narrow. So that won't be a deal breaker for me.</p><p></p><p>Two very knowledgable and trustworthy observers on Cloudy Nights (both of whom are also avid birders) reviewed both the 8x42 and 10x42 as great binoculars, both going as far back as two-three years ago. Not on the same level as a Nikon 10x42 SE, but from the remarks I read and from the comparisons I've done, seems it would place them well above the Nikon Action Extreme, a binocular that suffers from outer field aberrations and some ghosting. the coatings on the Nikon AE are quite a bit less than premium. FWIW, I liked the Nikon AE 8x40, but sold it, and the AE10x50 is good, but several other common 10x50s are better. The AE12x50 is by far the best performer of that set.</p><p></p><p>One very significant aspect of the fov issue is this; usually those binoculars with a narrower Afov have significantly better outer field performance than those with a wider fov. For instance the Nikon AE10x50 is stated to have a 6.5° fov (it's really only 6.1°). The Pentax PCF WP 10x50 has a 5° fov. But the Pentax has a wider aberration free fov than the Nikon AE. Likewise the Swift Ultralite 8x42 has only a 53° Afov and the Nikon AE 8x40 has a 64° Afov. But the Swift Ultralite has an equally wide, if not wider, aberration free fov than the Nikon AE. In fact the Nikon AEs outer 20% is so distorted by several aberrations that it's image at that point in the fov is unusable. So these narrower Afov Fujinon binoculars may not be at a shortfall due to narrow field if the narrower field stop in the eyepieces is (as I suspect) eliminating outer field aberrations.</p><p></p><p>edz</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="edz, post: 969681, member: 44073"] Well, I'm caught up with interest in these binoculars. I dug a bit deeper for more written information on both the 8x42 and the 10x42. First I found that one seasoned tester found the eye relief to measure over 15mm on the 8x. That would be more than enough for me with my eyeglasses. Then I thought about the narrow 6.25° fov in the 8x model. But when I checked my stable, I found of 3 other 8x40/8x42s that I own, only one of them is wider than that. My favorite, the Swift Ultralite is narrower by a bit. And I've never felt that to be narrow. So that won't be a deal breaker for me. Two very knowledgable and trustworthy observers on Cloudy Nights (both of whom are also avid birders) reviewed both the 8x42 and 10x42 as great binoculars, both going as far back as two-three years ago. Not on the same level as a Nikon 10x42 SE, but from the remarks I read and from the comparisons I've done, seems it would place them well above the Nikon Action Extreme, a binocular that suffers from outer field aberrations and some ghosting. the coatings on the Nikon AE are quite a bit less than premium. FWIW, I liked the Nikon AE 8x40, but sold it, and the AE10x50 is good, but several other common 10x50s are better. The AE12x50 is by far the best performer of that set. One very significant aspect of the fov issue is this; usually those binoculars with a narrower Afov have significantly better outer field performance than those with a wider fov. For instance the Nikon AE10x50 is stated to have a 6.5° fov (it's really only 6.1°). The Pentax PCF WP 10x50 has a 5° fov. But the Pentax has a wider aberration free fov than the Nikon AE. Likewise the Swift Ultralite 8x42 has only a 53° Afov and the Nikon AE 8x40 has a 64° Afov. But the Swift Ultralite has an equally wide, if not wider, aberration free fov than the Nikon AE. In fact the Nikon AEs outer 20% is so distorted by several aberrations that it's image at that point in the fov is unusable. So these narrower Afov Fujinon binoculars may not be at a shortfall due to narrow field if the narrower field stop in the eyepieces is (as I suspect) eliminating outer field aberrations. edz [/QUOTE]
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