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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CLRobles" data-source="post: 1540360" data-attributes="member: 76360"><p>You are obviously a huge advocate for ZR and that's good. Everybody has their own tastes and own reasoning for owning whatever goods they want. But the truth is that I have tried HD Chinese bins.... And no they were not the ZR but of the same caliber and they were not the same quality of the alphas.... Just look at your own thread were people were complaining about simple things like objective covers not fitting correctly and the printing being different. Things like the logo falling off.... These are quality issues and if you have them on the surface what do you think lays beneath? I guarentee you its not a Zeiss! So go ahead and be upset with me but the truth is they are not at a level that rivals the alphas! There is a lot more to a bin than just the level of the view. I have had 60 year old Zeiss that felt as solid as a new pair and the quality of the alphas keeps going up! No logos falling off there! Just a world of difference in build quality but why am I trying to convince you... You already have your mind made up right!</p></blockquote><p></p>