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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ceasar" data-source="post: 3230942" data-attributes="member: 26155">Hi Howard,It's good to know that you can get along with the M7 too.  I've considered buying one but I was concerned about whether I would get enough ER because it has  to be using a wide angle ocular to get a FOV of 435'@1000 yards and they usually have shorter ER than normal oculars.  Nikon lists its ER at 15.1mm.  My wife has a Swarovski 8x30 CL Companion and I get along pretty well with that binocular but it's FOV is only 372'@1000 yards.  Its ER is 15mm.   My older Swarovski 8x30 SLC is different and it might be because of the design of its eye cups or the ocular it uses because I have had some occasional minor blackout troubles using it.  It has a wider FOV of 411' @ 1000 yards than the 8x30 CL but the same 15mm  eye relief as it does.  I note that the Sightron 8x32 SII Blue Sky claims 17.5mm ER and and a FOV of 420'@1000 yards;  however it seems that its actual FOV is around 390'@1000 yards or so.  17.5mm is long ER for an 8x32 binocular and it might be one of the reasons for its popularity (along with its low price.:king<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. <a href="http://info.sightron.com/Binoculars/SII-Blue-Sky-Series-/SIIBL832/" target="_blank">http://info.sightron.com/Binoculars/SII-Blue-Sky-Series-/SIIBL832/</a>I did purchase a Pentax 9x32 DCF BC which is a clone of the aforesaid Sightron.  It has a FOV of 351'@1000 yards and stated ER of 16mm.  It is curious but I can place this binocular nearly any place under and against my eye brows  and not get blackouts (even back into my eye sockets). <a href="http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/pentax.pl?page=pentax_62791" target="_blank">http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/pentax.pl?page=pentax_62791</a>Pentax binoculars were recently given new designations.  Mine is now an AD9x32 WP  and the FOV as stated in the Camera Land link above is wrong but the 6.7 degrees works out to 351' @ 1000 yards.  (They might have received some small improvements along with their redesignations.  I wonder if the 9x28 was touched up?)Bob</blockquote>

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