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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steve C" data-source="post: 3366827" data-attributes="member: 56622">Henry,I don't see it today, but up to a year ago, the Kruger website told their story of their beginnings as Pacific Rim Optical.  PRO was a glass manufacturer, offering optical glass of all types for all uses.  It became a division of the evolving Kruger Optical as Kruger expanded into their own brand of various optics.  I see no mention of PRO in the current Kruger Optical website. A google search (albeit a quick one) did not show show what looked like the same PRO as I first cam across when I was reviewing the Kruger Caldera binocular.Things change, companies change, buyouts, splits, and mergers happen all the time, so maybe that has changed.  I am however 100% positive that Kruger story once included PRO.I was at the Kruger facility twice when they were in the tiny rural town of Sisters, Oregon, about a two hour drive from me.  Seemed to me at the time they had everything there to meet standards an optics manufacture, even if a small one.  They had complete CNC facilities, several sterile assembly rooms with people busy assembling rifle scopes (when I was there anyway).  They has two optical labs that looked to me to have all the testing tools needed.  The engineer I talked to seemed to know his stuff and he had all kinds of appropriate looking certificates etc on his office wall.  They had everything except a glass foundry that is.  If they still have PRO, I don't know.Bill's comment about not having a seat at the board table unless your name is Swarovski sure rings true with me. Let somebody make favorable comments about something other than Swarovski, and to a lesser extent Zeiss or Leica and the fury flies.  If They see Mother Teresa leading a choir of Heavenly Angels singing a stunning rendition of Ave Maria, then that is just giving just and due respect. Hence my reference to "Big Boys".  It is not so much what is in front of your eyes as it is what is between your ears.</blockquote>

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