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Message: <blockquote data-quote="F88" data-source="post: 3221078" data-attributes="member: 131692">Hi Brock,It was not always a terrible time with the M7, sometimes I'd get in some pretty good viewing and it would't be an issue. The more I used them in various conditions the more the veil of glare would appear and white wash the view and I never tried to induce it on testing or anything like that, it appeared so easily and obviously in normal use that I didn't have to seek it out, definitely something that couldn't be lived with especially if they were used as a main pair.There is no way I'd swap an SE for an M7 or choose an M7 over an EII so I think you made a good choice there and one you'll be much happier with. I also enjoy the enhanced 3D view in a porro.All that you mention about a pair of binoculars and the sum of its parts definitely applies to making a good, bad or average pair and for me the fatal flaw in the 8x30 M7 was as Dennis described it as being a Glare Monster.</blockquote>