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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Bean" data-source="post: 1268035" data-attributes="member: 64331">Hello Henry, Your Octarem 8x50 should be some consolation, in similar performance if not in rarity terms, the Nobilem/Octarem (according to Holger Merlitz) being "...hardly behind the 'Super' in its optical abilities", citing the Nobilem/Octarem as having "...better edge sharpness, a brighter image and better sealed against the weather", albeit the Super was "perhaps the more spectacular binocular" in a technical sense. In his test, both the Super and the Nobilem/Octarem scored 15, against the Zeiss 8x50 Oberkochen's 12. He concluded that on performance/price, "the Nobilem/Octarem is surely the better choice".So the Nobilem/Octarem is quite scarce, whereas the Super is extremely rare and thus very expensive. As an 'investment/collectable', the Super is clearly 'better'; as a 'user', I suggest the Nobilem/Octarem is more than adequate consolation. I hope this affords you some comfort...   Regards,  Jim.</blockquote>