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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brocknroller" data-source="post: 3340269" data-attributes="member: 665">I think there's a pattern emerging here, and I hope this thread doesn't get moved to Ruffles Have Ridges since it veers off the topic of optics, because it's still relevant to using those optics, namely, having enough money to take your bins wherever in the world you want for however long you want instead of jamming your birdwatching into a lunch hour or part of a day on the weekend or that once a year or once in a lifetime birding trip.  It's also good to see that people are thinking about others, too, rather than just themselves. Frank - Nobody won the PA Powerball on Saturday, you have another chance today, the next drawing is tonight for $ 1.5 Billion! Forget about starting from scratch and making your own optics, you could buy several optics companies for that much and tweak their designs to your specifications. As long as you're not thinking about making premium porros, then you'd have to start from scratch. Brock</blockquote>