Alpine Chough in Ukraine? (1 Viewer)

[Shumi]

Dear All, please kindly confirm (or correct me!) that these are Alpine Choughs (Pyrrhocorax graculus)?

Photographed in the Carpathian mountains in Western Ukraine today, on 06 June 2021

If true, this would be the first photo record of this species for Ukraine, that is also why I want to double-check.

Thanks!

 

[Butty]

Ravens. Bill-shape and -colour are wrong for either species of chough, and wing- and tail-shape are right for raven.

 

[tconzemi]

Alpine Choughs have bright yellow bill and red feet, these are Raven

 

[Original PaulE]

Surely the bills are not big enough for Ravens? Or are they different to Uk? Not saying they aint mind?

 

[Butty]

Birds look weird sometimes.

 

[Original PaulE]

Surely the bills are not big enough for Ravens? Or are they different to Uk? Not saying they aint mind?

Have just coincidently seen a post on facebook with young ravens that look just like these

 

[Paul Leader]

Have just coincidently seen a post on facebook with young ravens that look just like these

Except these are in active moult so cannot be young birds.

 

[Shumi]

Have just coincidently seen a post on facebook with young ravens that look just like these

Thanks to everyone for your helpful comments. @Original PaulE - could you post a link or a picture of those ravens here? Thank you

 

[Original PaulE]

Except these are in active moult so cannot be young birds.

Yes I don't know what they are!! Certainly don't look like any Ravens I've seen,never seen an alpine Chough, but don't look much like Chough that I have seen!

 

[Original PaulE]

Thanks to everyone for your helpful comments. @Original PaulE - could you post a link or a picture of those ravens here? Thank you

Think it is a private group !! and they are very young sat on a fence post with the adult so not sure be much help!! and as Paul pointed out yours are not young birds so probably not much use anyway

 

[Original PaulE]

Thanks to everyone for your helpful comments. @Original PaulE - could you post a link or a picture of those ravens here? Thank you

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Not sure they do look much like yours now either