Another thrush ID from Northern Pakistan (1 Viewer)

[gilgit2]

I spotted this thrush mixed with Common Starlings (Sturnus vulgaris) and Black-throated Thrushes (Turdus atrogularis) at Borith Lake (36°26'6" N 74°51'40" E, in Northern parts of Pakistan), on 25 November. Unfortunately I was not able to get some clear shots of the bird, the breast/belly streaking and slight rufous coloration (during flight) to the tail seems bit odd for the usual thrushes in the area.

Thanks in advance for help.

 

[andyb39]

Also a Black-throated Thrush - maybe a 1st-winter female?

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

Also a Black-throated Thrush - maybe a 1st-winter female?

Its a 1st-w female Black-throated as Andy suggests, age confirmed by clear moult limit in greater coverts. The strength and extent of the breast streaking is a variable feature which can be very marked particularly in 1st-w females. The slightly warmer tone to the underside of the tail is likely due to reflected light IMO.

Grahame

 

[gilgit2]

Thank you andyb39 and Grahame for clarifying. I should have been bit obvious for the calls in the field.

Its a 1st-w female Black-throated as Andy suggests, age confirmed by clear moult limit in greater coverts. The strength and extent of the breast streaking is a variable feature which can be very marked particularly in 1st-w females. The slightly warmer tone to the underside of the tail is likely due to reflected light IMO.

Grahame

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

Apologies Iran, I should have read your opening post more carefully and picked up on the fact that you mentioned seeing rufous in the tail in flight, presumably the upper tail? Since this is clearly visible in all 3 images (above and below) it suggests Red-throated influence so, likely a Red-throated x Black-throated Thrush hybrid.

Grahame

 

[andyb39]

Apologies Iran, I should have read your opening post more carefully and picked up on the fact that you mentioned seeing rufous in the tail in flight, presumably the upper tail? Since this is clearly visible in all 3 images (above and below) it suggests Red-throated influence so, likely a Red-throated x Black-throated Thrush hybrid.

Grahame

Yes, I missed that too.