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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andy Adcock" data-source="post: 3517804" data-attributes="member: 31710">I'd personally be embarassed to charge anyone $180 'expenses' for a days guiding. I'd be happy with lunch and a beer which was the founding principle of the site I think but it's been usurped for financial gain.In many places, the locals have become aware of what people pay for tours and have aligned their charges to mirror this. This has the effect of hitting the less finacially well endowed when they take guides on a casual basis. After all, many (not all) only do indepenent trips because they can't afford tour prices.For those of us of modest means, it's becoming harder and harder to afford trips and some destinations are already way out of my league sadly.Perhaps it's time 'Birding Pal' was renamed?A</blockquote>