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Message: <blockquote data-quote="njlarsen" data-source="post: 1559311" data-attributes="member: 7427">One thing that these proposals (specifically the Trogon splits) bring to the forefront is the lack of logic in the geographical limits between NACC and SACC areas. My guess is that the least overlap in number of species would have been if the limit was set at the Mexican Isthmus of Tehuantepec instead of at the Panama-Colombia border (am I correct in thinking the latter is the current limit? I would not be surpriced if Mysticete is correct in the guesses of which splits to accept. Reading the account yesterday, I would have felt that the arguments for Woodhouse's would be good enough, but of course, I don't have a vote <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> If Woodhouse's is split but Sumichrast is not, which entety will the latter actually belong to? I have never seen this one, but brighter blue with hooked bill sounded more like californica?Niels</blockquote>