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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KenM" data-source="post: 3648459" data-attributes="member: 57880">I don't know how "set in stone" the absence of, or the inclusion of, streaks to the UTC's are regarding definitive ID of the said races regarding this taxa. The OP had singled this bird out as distinctively different from rest of group which were given as Common Redpolls, clearly a much paler bird than the rest, thus perhaps grounds for candidacy?This taxa, as you know is a "bit of a minefield", hence the call to lump along with other taxa that are not properly understood, in my view if you have a seemingly credible candidate that appears to favour one taxon over the other (albeit might in certain quarters be considered marginally so), then one is at liberty to respond accordingly as one sees fit.</blockquote>