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arctic redpoll - south Poland ?
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<blockquote data-quote="SteveClifton" data-source="post: 3648475" data-attributes="member: 48420"><p>With respect Ken, although it might have stood out within the flock, extreme pale Meally Redpolls do exist-and can in fact be more striking than this individual.</p><p></p><p>Without relying just on the undertail coverts, the following <em>exilipes</em> features (from Nils Van Duivendijk's book) don't fit this bird very well:</p><p></p><p>Ear coverts almost concolorous with rest of rear head (ear coverts normally darker in Common) You could argue that they are the same colour here, but there is also a well-defined border which might be within range for extreme Arctic?</p><p>Pale rear scaps (lacking in this bird)</p><p>Bill not especially short (nor indeed 'buried’ within facial feathering)</p><p>Upperparts with yellow-white to white ground colour (this bird has a brown ground colour to my eyes. I can’t detect any yellow tones)</p><p>Often pale hind-neck (It looks quite dark like the mantle to me)</p><p>Often broad head and thick neck (this bird is not typically broad and full-necked as many typical <em>exilipes</em>)</p><p></p><p></p><p>On the undertail coverts of Coue’s Arctic/<em>exilipes</em> (from Martin Garner’s Winter Challenge book):</p><p>'Undertail coverts vary from un-marked white to containing one thin slate-coloured streak. Rarely two streaks or single broader eliptical streak and a number of very thin pencil’ lines.'</p><p></p><p>Given that the subject bird has 2 broader streaks and at least 2 pencil streaks, coupled with the other features that don't fit, I think it would be misleading to suggest that this is a good Arctic candidate. It might be an 'extreme outside chance' candidate but probably safer to err on the side of caution without better evidence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SteveClifton, post: 3648475, member: 48420"] With respect Ken, although it might have stood out within the flock, extreme pale Meally Redpolls do exist-and can in fact be more striking than this individual. Without relying just on the undertail coverts, the following [I]exilipes[/I] features (from Nils Van Duivendijk's book) don't fit this bird very well: Ear coverts almost concolorous with rest of rear head (ear coverts normally darker in Common) You could argue that they are the same colour here, but there is also a well-defined border which might be within range for extreme Arctic? Pale rear scaps (lacking in this bird) Bill not especially short (nor indeed 'buried’ within facial feathering) Upperparts with yellow-white to white ground colour (this bird has a brown ground colour to my eyes. I can’t detect any yellow tones) Often pale hind-neck (It looks quite dark like the mantle to me) Often broad head and thick neck (this bird is not typically broad and full-necked as many typical [I]exilipes[/I]) On the undertail coverts of Coue’s Arctic/[I]exilipes[/I] (from Martin Garner’s Winter Challenge book): 'Undertail coverts vary from un-marked white to containing one thin slate-coloured streak. Rarely two streaks or single broader eliptical streak and a number of very thin pencil’ lines.' Given that the subject bird has 2 broader streaks and at least 2 pencil streaks, coupled with the other features that don't fit, I think it would be misleading to suggest that this is a good Arctic candidate. It might be an 'extreme outside chance' candidate but probably safer to err on the side of caution without better evidence. [/QUOTE]
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