Are these brown-throated sunbirds? - Vietnam (1 Viewer)

[ike61095]

I captured these three sunbirds at different places and times. I believe they are all female brown-throated sunbirds, but their eyes seem to be black, not red as seen in other photos of the species. Please help me identify them correctly. Thank you.

 

[bhutjoe]

Hi, I believe the first photo is female Ornate Sunbird, the second is a quite young bird if I am interpreting the bill and gape correctly. The bill size looks like it could be a ruby-cheeked sunbird but possibly also brown-throated. The last might be von Hasselet's or ornate. Location - north or south and elevation/habitat can aid quite a bit as many sunbirds are range/habitat specific. Hopefully someone will come along soon and be more specific and give you accurate IDs.
all the best

 

[ike61095]

Hi, I believe the first photo is female Ornate Sunbird, the second is a quite young bird if I am interpreting the bill and gape correctly. The bill size looks like it could be a ruby-cheeked sunbird but possibly also brown-throated. The last might be von Hasselet's or ornate. Location - north or south and elevation/habitat can aid quite a bit as many sunbirds are range/habitat specific. Hopefully someone will come along soon and be more specific and give you accurate IDs.
all the best

Thank you very much. To give more details of each instance for those interested, all were taken in Central Vietnam.
1. Montane forest edge, Khanh Le pass, Khanh Hoa
2. Montane forest along the coast of Phu Yen
3. Lowland Semi-urban area, Khanh Hoa

 

[Larry Sweetland]

Shooting from the hip: Ornate (previously Olive-backed) for 1 and 3. Brown-throated for 2

 

[THE_FERN]

Surely 3 = ornate ("olive-backed")—even though I've not seen Van Hasselt's [going by ebird]