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Message: <blockquote data-quote="denco@comcast.n" data-source="post: 1420556" data-attributes="member: 25300">All right enough! I couldn't stand it! I ordered a pair of Zen Ray 8x43 ED's on Friday and they shipped USPS Priority mail on Saturday for $360.00 with free shipping which is pretty amazing. Customer service appears to be awesome! If these Chinese binoculars are 99% as good as the "Big Three" they are going to put a major dent in their sales. Competition is good though Swarovski has long been charging too much for their binoculars and their crystals (my wife makes jewelry) even though I admit they are high quality. There will always be people willing to pay alot for what they consider the best though. Just look at Astrophysics telescopes. People pay princely sums for those and wait 5 YEARS to get them! The Chinese with their lower labor cost can make and manufacture high quality merchandise. Thing is their wages have been going up lately so it makes you wonder how long that will last.     My present binoculars are Nikon 8x32 LXL, Leica 7x42 BN, Nikon 8x32 SE, and Canon 8x36 IS II. So eventually I will have to compare the Zen Ray to these. I have also had alot of other binoculars so I will of course express my opinion. This forum is an excellent source of information on binoculars and birding.Dennis</blockquote>