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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alexis Powell" data-source="post: 1421123" data-attributes="member: 5327">I haven't tried them yet myself, but I'm confident from what everyone else has reported that the Zen-Ray 8x43 ED is an excellent bino.  A friend of mine, who has picky tastes in optics but who is always looking for a bargain tried them recently on my recommendation and he loves them in comparison to the Stokes DLS, Vortex Viper and Vortex Razor (all of which he now considers obsolete in the mid-priced 8x category).  So the Zen-Ray ED is a great bino, and certainly a great bino for the price.  But who will answer Dennis' original question? Are these binos so good that a person who wants the best birding bino regardless of price should consider them?  I know the alphas very well and how they differ from one another optically and mechanically, and decent reviews describing these differences are readily available on Birdforum and elsewhere.  I'd like to see a thorough comparative review of the Zen-Ray ED (and Promaster etc) with the alphas.--AP</blockquote>