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Message: <blockquote data-quote="denco@comcast.n" data-source="post: 1423608" data-attributes="member: 25300">The more I use the focus on the Zen Ray 8x43 ED's the better it gets. I am going to have to retract my statement about stiff focusing. It is much better than say a Leica and is now getting close to being as good as my Nikon 8x32LXL's. They fit nicely in the Crooked Horn case with the strap inside also. The Vero Vellini strap worked very well. I used the one without the snap off attachments and I have it adjusted about 4 inches above my belt line. It is a very nice simple strap. The Bushmaster objective covers fit nicely and I did not have to trim them at all. I really like how they work. Very easy to open, they do not come off and they really protect your lenses. The twist out eyecups just move a little in the clockwise and counter clockwise direction at each stop. They do not move back and forth. Probably only a 1/32 of an inch or so not a big thing but they could be engineered with tighter tolerances. These binoculars really have nice ergonomics and fit nicely in my hands. They are probably not the equal of the newer ED alpha binoculars I don't know I haven't looked through any but I would put them up against the Zeiss FL, Leica Ultravids, and Swarovski EL's anyday of the week. I know they are as good. Dennis</blockquote>