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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brocknroller" data-source="post: 1599731" data-attributes="member: 665">Horukuru,To say one bin is "better" than the other is a judgment call. But from an optical standpoint, the SE would need 1/2* larger FOV and ED glass to equal the EDG's optical performance. What I find lacking in the 10x42 SE is the 6* FOV. I thought it might be because the hard rubber eyecups on the older version kept my deep-set eyes from getting close enough to see the entire FOV, plus the SE shows some vignetting at the edge. However, when I compared the 10x42 LX with the 10x42 SE on the night sky (with the SE eyecups OFF), I found the LX's TFOV was slightly larger. An optics expert meticulously measured the 10x SE's FOV at 6.2*, at least on his sample. According to the manufacturer's specs, both the 10x LX and 10x SE have the same TFOV (6*). For daytime use, the 10x LX seemed to have a more comfortable, "open" view than the SE (i.e., larger AFOV). This may be, in part, due to the illusion of larger apparent image scale in the roofs, and, in part, that in the samples I compared, the LX actually had a slightly wider TFOV.  The 10x42 EDG has a larger specified TFOV (6.5*) and gives a more "open" apparent view than either the SE or LX, and unlike the 10x LX, the EDG is not plagued with excessive "rolling ball".  Unlike the 10x SE, I don't feel the field closing in around me with the 10x EDG, and I find that more aesthetically pleasing. Ergonomically, the SE and EDG are both very comfortable for me to hold, but the EDG gets the nod due to its three extra ounces of weight and better distribution of that weight with its open bridge frame so that the weight doesn't seem burdensome, and it helps dampen vibrations.So yes, IMO, the 10x EDG is "better" than the 10x SE, but whether it's better to you or if the $1300-$1400 difference in price makes it better enough to justify the higher cost, only you and your wallet can decide (or you and your wife's wallet if you're married - I'm not sure how it works in Borneo <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. BrockAddendum: The EDG is also waterproof and fog proof, which isn't that important to me, but it is to many birders and hunters.I have not yet tried the 8x32 EDG, and since the optical design of the 42mm LX/ L models and 32mm LX/ L models are significantly different from each other, I would be reluctant to guess how the 8x32 EDG compares to the SE since there might also be significant differences between the full sized and mid-sized EDG models.</blockquote>

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