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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kevin Purcell" data-source="post: 1599767" data-attributes="member: 68323">Ditto. I have seen one Nikon SE 8x32 (in a rather well used shape!) when on a chase for a Least Flycatcher south of Seattle. But aside from the 10x42 SE I'm often see with (part of my "can an SE survive the PNW winter without much babying" project) I haven't seen any others. So they are the "rara avis" of bins.There are few "good" porros used except on a couple of other locals (e.g. one nice condition Zeiss 7x35 porro on a local who is perhaps mid-30s so not an old fart!). But the other porros I see are mostly cheap ones (even on the occasional good birder!).I think it's a mix of fashion (being seen with the right type (roof!) or brand) and practicality (waterproof roofs are easier to deal with in bad weather; easier to clean with detergent and water).I also suspect as most folks never get taught about "military" or "thumbs up" grip they find roofs less shaky too.Each to their own. I like both which leads to a conflicted life <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />All that said if I had a set of waterproof Canon IS 10x30 (or 10x36 ... not actually made) I could be happy. Maybe the 10x42 IS some day. They are both porros after all (with field flattener and small roof like enclosure and even ED glass. Perhaps the future for porro fans.</blockquote>

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