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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jonathan B." data-source="post: 1600266" data-attributes="member: 4633">That's funny, because when I said above that a revised SE designed by the BF "committee" would be a camel, I also initially suggested that somebody take all the ideas to China and have the "ideal" porro bin made. I deleted the comment before posting, because that is even less likely than Nikon producing a revised SE.Unlike some, I find the focus speed of the SE to be perfect; it allows me to achieve a precise focus easily, unlike many other current/recent bins. I have never experienced black-out with my SE, but I don't wear glasses, which seems to be at the root of many users' experience with that problem.In the past decade I have probably encountered about two hundred birders in New Mexico, Arizona, and California. Of those, three besides myself were carrying an SE; and of those three, one was visiting from the UK.The greatest binocular on the planet would not succeed if it was a porro-prism design (and in fact the point here is that the greatest binocular in the world did not succeed and it WAS a porro-prism design). Like Steve Ingraham said, I have had several people look at my SE and suggest that I was using a piece of crap. 99% of the binocular buyers out there are uninformed and are swayed by fashion and sales-speak. No expensive porro-prism binocular stands a chance of succeeding in that climate.</blockquote>