Asian Brown or Dark-Sided flycatcher? (Singapore) (1 Viewer)

[lowressgbirding]

Hi!

Would appreciate any help to confirm the ID of this bird - is this an Asian Brown or Dark-sided Flycatcher?

The wing tips look fairly long, and there are some dark streaks on the chest, thus I'm leaning towards dark-sided. But I might just be hoping for this to be a dark-sided, and may not be entirely objective =p

Thanks!

(Again, apologies for the poor image quality, as these were taken using my phone.)

 

[dwatsonbirder]

Looks fine for Dark sided/Siberian to me - primaries longer than exposed tertials, eye-ring wider behind eye than in front, sullied underparts and indistinct streaking on the flanks.

 

[creedence]

Looks fine for Dark sided/Siberian to me - primaries longer than exposed tertials, eye-ring wider behind eye than in front, sullied underparts and indistinct streaking on the flanks.

I cannot see dark sides or the white half-collar, so Asian Brown for me

 

[dwatsonbirder]

I cannot see dark sides or the white half-collar, so Asian Brown for me

Image 20211204_111455-01.jpeg shows both of these features?

 

[lowressgbirding]

Many thanks dwatsonbirder and creedence! Really appreciate your expertise in pointing out the features to look out for.

Have a good weekend =)

 

[ratt]

I saw Asian Brown quite often in India and my memory is of a bird with a cleaner breast and flanks than this looks. So I have to say that I am leaning heavily toward Dark Sided.

 

[andyb39]

Dark-sided for me - large head with small dark bill, long wings, coarse streaks on sides of breast but area in the centre of the breast is clear of streaks, malar stripe, rather distinct posterior wing bar.

 

[lowressgbirding]

Thanks, ratt and andyb39!

 

[HouseCrow]

Dumpy looking bird with quite heavy streaks and a big head and big eye. Asian Brown is more well proportioned and less streaked... I would say.
I noticed there are some other contenders in the area (similar to Dark-sided) but I think you are right here.

cheers,
G